So was this trained on existing anime? Ain't no way the corpus was licensed legally.
Maybe they bought a Crunchyroll subscription. It's how a lot of people get trained on anime.
AniSora: Open-source anime video generation model
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Here’s the argument: The output of her translations had no copyright. Language developed independently of translators. The output of artists has copyright. Artists shape the space in which they’re generating output. The fear now is that if we no longer have a market where people generate novel arts, that space will stagnate.
That makes no sense, neither legally nor philosophically. > Language developed independently of translators. And it also developed independently of writers and poets. > Artists shape the space in which they’re generating output. Not writers and poets, apparently. And so maybe not even artists, who typically mostly painted book references. Color perception and symbolism developed independently of professional artists,…
If you think memes are art too and we lack shared consumption of art due to personalization, you clearly don't have kids into YouTube or Minecraft or Frozen, or ...
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Thanks! > This model has 1 file scanned as unsafe. testvl-pre76-top187-rec69.pth Hm, perhaps I'll wait for this to get cleared up?
Disty of SD.Next has made a version in diffusers format. https://huggingface.co/Disty0/Index-anisora-5B-diffusers For the record, the dev branch of SD.Next ( https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnext ) already supports it.
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#194I would like to see how the fight scenes in The Beginning After the End could improve from being passed through this tool. In all seriousness I wonder where is this all headed? Are people long term going to be more forgiving of visual artifacts if it will mean that their favourite franchise gets another season? Or will generated imagery be shunned just like the not-so-subtle use of 3D models?
Toei Animation is looking to utilize AI in areas such as storyboarding, coloring, and “color specification,” as well as in-between animation and backgrounds. The specific use cases mentioned include: • Storyboarding: Leveraging AI to “generate simple layouts and shooting of the storyboards.” • Colors: Employing AI to “specify colors and automatically correct colors.” • In-betweens: Utilizing AI to “automatically corr…
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#195I welcome this. I know there is a huge market for those excited for infinite anime music videos and all things anime. This is great for an abundance of content and everyone will become anime artists now. Japan is truly is embracing AI and there will be new jobs for everyone thanks to the boom AI is creating as well as Jevons paradox which will create huge demand. Even better if this open source.
I don't know, I used to like some anime and mangas when I was 14 in the mid 90's. Nowadays it seems everyone is interested by "anime style" of content but all I see is terrible in term of quality. It seems quantity increased so much in the last 30 years it only made quality stuff more invisible and we are inundated with animelike trash.
Not my experience - as someone generally not interested in anime I only tend to be aware of the cream of the crop.
And in fact we seem to have a once of a decade alignment of talent (starting in 2023 with Season 1) with Frieren.
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#196Some of these are very obviously trained on webtoons and manga, probably pixiv as well. This is very clear due to seeing CG buildings and other misc artifacts. So this is obviously trained on copyrighted material. Art is something that cannot be generated like synthetic text so it will have to be nearly forever powered by human artists or else you will continue to end up with artifacting. So it makes me wonder if art…
Disclaimer: I'm an artist with 30+ years of experience. Downgraded to AI training? Nonsense. You forget artists do more than just draw for money, we also draw for FUN, and that little detail escapes every single AI-related discussion I've been reading for the last 3 years.
This is exactly what I meant when I said "people can draw what they want *for fun*.
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#197Some of these are very obviously trained on webtoons and manga, probably pixiv as well. This is very clear due to seeing CG buildings and other misc artifacts. So this is obviously trained on copyrighted material. Art is something that cannot be generated like synthetic text so it will have to be nearly forever powered by human artists or else you will continue to end up with artifacting. So it makes me wonder if art…
> So it makes me wonder if artists will just be downgraded to an "AI" training position, but it could be for the best as people can draw what they like instead and have that input feed into a model for training which doesn't sound too bad. Doesn’t sound too bad? It sounds like the premise of a dystopian novel. Most artists would be profoundly unhappy making “art” to be fed to and deconstructed by a machine. You’re no…
I don't consider facebook a good sample group.
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#198Some of these are very obviously trained on webtoons and manga, probably pixiv as well. This is very clear due to seeing CG buildings and other misc artifacts. So this is obviously trained on copyrighted material. Art is something that cannot be generated like synthetic text so it will have to be nearly forever powered by human artists or else you will continue to end up with artifacting. So it makes me wonder if art…
I find it interesting that you echo the concerns of people who defend artists’ copyright claims, while stating that you are very pro AI in terms of copyright. It’s a very emotionally loaded space for many, meaning most comments I read lean to the extremes of either argument, so seeing a comment like yours that combines both makes me curious. Would be interesting to hear a bit more about how you see the role of copyri…
At first it will obviously make it easier for artists to create what they want at the expense of doing everything yourself which will take the fun out of it. At first we might see some raise in the money some people can make, but as I said the choice artists will have in the end is being someone who draws pictures for a machine to be trained on.
I also think AI is the next evolution of humanity.
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> Art is something that cannot be generated like synthetic text 10 years ago: "real real text cannot be generated like stock phrases, so writing will be nearly forever powered by human writers."
I think "text" is irrelevant, the distinction is between art and the synthetic, where art might be written or visual. It's a vague term that's often used to mean "graphics", confusing matters, and the meaning of art is endlessly debated, like the meaning of intelligence. Obviously we have synthetic graphics (like synthetic text). So something else must be meant by "art" here.
That was a happy accident.
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It’s great that you have sympathy for illustrators, but I don’t see a big difference if the training data is a novel, a picture, a song, a piece of code, or even a piece of legal text. As my mom retired from being a translator, she went from typewriter to machine-assisted translation with centralised corpus-databases. All the while the available work became less and less, and the wages became lower and lower. In the…
My prediction: It will be like furniture. A long time ago, every piece of furniture was handmade. It might have been good furniture, or crude, poorly constructed furniture, but it was all quite expensive, in terms of hours per piece. Now, furniture is almost completely mass produced, and can be purchased in a variety of styles and qualities relatively cheaply. Any customization or uniqueness puts it right back into t…
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