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Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Post by jzb »

0xAFFFF wrote: post #171
habosa wrote: post #77

The MAGA people attacking Hollywood is such a big mistake. Yes I know the average celebrity doesn’t share their views, but that doesn’t change the fact that Hollywood projects American culture around the world in a way that the government could never do itself. Movies and music made here are so often cited as the reason why young people around the world idealize America and want to emulate us (buy our clothes, speak…

Trump has proven time and time again that he didn't understand soft power.

I wish people would stop with the “Trump doesn’t understand $thing” stuff.

It doesn’t matter whether Trump understands $thing. Pretending that he’s acting in good faith to make things better, but is somehow failing because he doesn’t get X, Y, or Z falls right into the trap. He’s trying to destroy American “soft power”. It doesn’t interest him.

Neither does a good economy, schools, NATO, etc. All of these things are being destroyed or mangled on purpose.

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Post by bilekas »

gtirloni wrote: post #69
ur-whale wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not what this is about. Most American movies are shot outside of the US these days because among other factors Hollywood unions have made it way more expensive to shoot in the US.

> That's not what this is about. Of course. It's clearly about the fentanyl emergency.

Think of the children! The foreign movies might expose them to something other than American English!

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Post by Der_Einzige »

Given how much modern actors and related are freaking out about AI (despite holding "egalitarian" social views), I'm more than happy to see them destroyed. Very bad for US soft-power but great for helping gut hollywood faster.

Huge amounts of the top brass of hollywood are disgusting. Tom Cruise and the rest of Scientologies leadership should be in prison right now, and that's just one tiny example of the sea of shit found in hollywood.

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Post by gwd »

HPsquared wrote: post #137
habosa wrote: post #77

The MAGA people attacking Hollywood is such a big mistake. Yes I know the average celebrity doesn’t share their views, but that doesn’t change the fact that Hollywood projects American culture around the world in a way that the government could never do itself. Movies and music made here are so often cited as the reason why young people around the world idealize America and want to emulate us (buy our clothes, speak…

Isolationism is a key MAGA tenet. It's not accidental.

MAGA has several mutually exclusive tenets:

- Isolationism

- Increase US influence worldwide

- Exploit US influence worldwide

Each one will have a negative effect on the other two.

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Post by vanjajaja1 »

peder wrote: post #177
habosa wrote: post #77

The MAGA people attacking Hollywood is such a big mistake. Yes I know the average celebrity doesn’t share their views, but that doesn’t change the fact that Hollywood projects American culture around the world in a way that the government could never do itself. Movies and music made here are so often cited as the reason why young people around the world idealize America and want to emulate us (buy our clothes, speak…

This tariff isn't an attack on Hollywood. This helps actors and staff in the Hollywood area.

its very likely to cause reciprocal tariffs though, and exports of Hollywood way out weigh the imports of foreign films

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Post by dom96 »

DeusExMachina wrote: post #156
jaimebuelta wrote: post #94

Not sure I follow. Biggest real action movie last year was “Deadpool & Wolverine”, a Disney movie which was shot in UK and made a bit over 50% of its revenue overseas[1]. Its main stars were Canadian and Australian. Does this mean that you’ll have to pay double to go watch it to cinemas in the US? Will that make Disney to focus on the international market? [1] https://the-numbers.com/movie/Deadpool-and-Wolverine-(202…

Since it's about movies produced overseas, I don't think the nationality of the actors or the overseas revenue counts. But it probaby counts that it was shot in the UK. The reason why Disney does that is because they get tax breaks from the UK government, which I think it's what Trump is referring to.

So let me get this straight... he's not happy with the UK because of VAT (value added tax) and he's also not happy with the UK because of tax breaks?

Amazing.

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Post by perihelions »

Does the First Amendment preclude the US from imposing prohibitive taxes on media?

It'd be clearly unconstitutional to ban them outright; so, where and how's that line drawn?

late edit: I just want to note the text of POTUS' announcement includes this: "It is, in addition to everything else, messaging and propaganda!" The overtly expressed motive here is animus towards the content of the speech (not some content-neutral factor like trade balances).

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Post by peder »

d3nj4l wrote: post #168

This makes no sense and people are giving it too much credit. What does “produced” mean? How do you “tariff” a movie? When is the movie crossing the border and who’s doing the valuation, customs check, and so on? There’s literally no substance to this and people are tying themselves into knots to make sense of this.

There are things to sort out, but it's certainly doable. They can probably use direct COGS to determine the tariff basis.

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Post by squigz »

seydor wrote: post #131
squigz wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How quickly do you expect a country to 'step in to compete for their place'? I'm pretty sure America didn't get to where they are overnight. The world will adjust to this, it just takes longer than a few months...

America got there pretty swiftly with bretton woods. Maybe the competing threat of ussr helped

I don't think something that happened more than 80 years ago is a great example of how the modern world might adapt - not to mention that involved more than just America.
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