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Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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Post by ziml77 »

i_love_retros wrote: post #144
qwertox wrote: post #45

I was given a free month of Kagi to test, and it had so many rough edges that during the last days of of the trial I was already using Google again. Notable issues for me: - maps (from Mapbox) are really bad. Sluggish performance and lack of information - barely any info boxes - no translation feature ("gründonnerstag englisch") gives me links to leo.org (which was a cool site in the 00s) and to other sites, but Goog…

Kagi not saving search history is a big selling point for me. I don't want yet another tech company keeping tabs on me. And I wouldn't care if they dropped maps, I pay for kagi for search and the assistant.

I feel the same about their maps. I pay for Kagi for search primarily and assistant secondarily. I'm fine getting my maps from a different source. Not every service needs to be an "everything app".

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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Post by freediver »

CubsFan1060 wrote: post #148

Is there a way to disable this? We have a strict no-ai policy. Even having it available will be an issue and I may not be able to use Kagi at work.

Curious is it no AI or no LLMs policy? Search has used some form of AI since inception.

Are you imagining one switch toggle that would disable it at the team account level (or individual account level - in which case it would theoratically still be opt-in and 'available' like it is now).

Genuinly trying to understand the UX of it that would comply with the policy.

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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Post by basch »

colonial wrote: post #15

> A note on our fair-use policy > Basically our policy states that you can use AI models based on your plan’s value. Although I likely won't use Assistant, stuff like this is why I love Kagi. My relationship with them as a customer feels refreshingly transparent; I can't think of any other consumer SaaS provider that automatically answers my reflexive "how does this make money?" question. (Compare, say, Discord. It's…

The thing still giving me pause is a lack of "bring your own model connection" between saas uh services.

If I already pay for Gemini Advanced (or OpenAI/ChagtGPT Pro), I then have to pay for it again at every service that offers a Pro 2.5 (or 4.1/4o) tier. I should be able to connect my Gemini Advanced access to any service that offers Flash and be able to upgrade. Signing up for a bunch of services is starting to feel like being triple, quadruple or more dipped. Similar to how I am annoyed seeing media content cross licensed to three streaming services and not getting a bill reduction when subscribed to multiple services with the same content.

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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Post by ploum »

freediver wrote: post #188
icoder wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well in your defence, the HN title does say 'available to all users'

Good point - how would you word the title?

Kagi Assistants to become avalailable to all users this week.

I was also confused, the title is very misleading and US-centric.

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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Post by viraptor »

freediver wrote: post #186
viraptor wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's blocked on Firefox on Android. Another comment quoted the meta tag which disables it.

Got it. For some reason Bear Blog defaults to this setting, not easy to change from dashboard it seems.

Awesome, thanks for checking it!

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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Post by 34679 »

Kagi search is great, but I'm not willing to pay more than $5/mo for search and 300 searches isn't enough. I have no interest in Kagi AI. Adding more searches would've caused me to sign up again. A rate limit instead of a monthly limit would prevent the "search anxiety" that creeps in as your available searches dwindle. Make it so and you can have my money again.

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Post by an_guy »

kerkeslager wrote: post #108
7bit wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not enough to cover expenses? Do you understand what you're saying? That they're running a deficit for 15 years. Companies must make profit, or they vanish. They clearly make a profit, otherwise they would no longer exist.

> Companies must make profit, or they vanish. Oh, buddy. That's how it's supposed to work, but that is not how it works at all.

What do you mean?

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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Post by ndaiger »

34679 wrote: post #196

Kagi search is great, but I'm not willing to pay more than $5/mo for search and 300 searches isn't enough. I have no interest in Kagi AI. Adding more searches would've caused me to sign up again. A rate limit instead of a monthly limit would prevent the "search anxiety" that creeps in as your available searches dwindle. Make it so and you can have my money again.

I also use the $5/month plan, and the few times I have exceeded the 300-search limit, Kagi simply renews my monthly plan early.

For me it's just happened a few times towards the end of the month and I was happy with how they handled the situation.

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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Post by snackernews »

scosman wrote: post #176

Okay - this is amazing. I’m a happy paying Kagi user. Getting to apply almost all of my payment towards for cross-platform tokens as a bonus - wow. This will replace a chatGPT and Anthropic sub for most everyday users. Their assistant is better than bringing my own keys to a client for most use cases. Just wow.

I agree. I’m on the $10 professional plan and honestly if I’d received an email offering this for an extra $5 per month it would have been a no brainer for me.

Please Kagi, don’t take too much of a haircut or let paying for this eat into the core search budget.

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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Post by lurk2 »

34679 wrote: post #196

Kagi search is great, but I'm not willing to pay more than $5/mo for search and 300 searches isn't enough. I have no interest in Kagi AI. Adding more searches would've caused me to sign up again. A rate limit instead of a monthly limit would prevent the "search anxiety" that creeps in as your available searches dwindle. Make it so and you can have my money again.

I suspect that Kagi’s price point might be a close approximation of what these services actually cost to provide without being subsidized by ad services and data harvesting; free search can only really sustain itself under those conditions. Heavy users who block ads have been getting subsidized by other users for decades now, and this has led these users to expect these services to be provided at an unrealistically low price.
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