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Re: OpenAI o3 and o4-mini

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For coding, I like the Aider polyglot benchmark, since it covers multiple programming languages. Gemini 2.5 Pro got 72.9% o3 high gets 81.3%, o4-mini high gets 68.9%

where do you find those o3 high numbers? https://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/ currently has gemini 2.5 pro as the leader at, as you say, 72.9%.

It's in the OpenAI article post (OP) i.e. OpenAI ran Aider themselves.

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They are all now available on the Pro plan. Y'all really ought to have a little bit more grace to wait 30 minutes after the announcement for the rollout.

Or maybe OpenAI could wait until they'd released it before telling people to use it now .

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Interesting that using tools to zoom around the image is useful for the model. I was kind of assuming that these models were beyond such things and could attend to all aspects image simultaneously anyway, but perhaps their input is still limited in the resolution? Very cool, in any case, spooky progress as always.

There's just a certain amount of things the image encoder can process at once. It's pretty apparent when you give the models a big table in an image.

Re: OpenAI o3 and o4-mini

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So far with my random / coding design question that I asked with o1 last week, it did substantially better with o3. It’s more like a mid level engineer and less like a intern.

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ChatGPT was released in 2022, so OP's point stands perfectly well.

They're rumored to be working on a social network to rival X with the focus being on image generations. https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/15/openai-is-reportedly-devel... The play now seems to be less AGI, more "too big to fail" / use all the capital to morph into a FAANG bigtech. My bet is that they'll develop a suite of office tools that leverage their model, chat/communication tools, a browser, and perhaps a device.…

I appreciate the info and I have a question:

Why would anyone use a social network run by Sam Altman? No offense but his reputation is chaotic neutral to say the least.

Social networks require a ton of momentum to get going.

BlueSky already ate all the momentum that X lost.

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Im old enough to remember the mystery and hype before o*/o1/strawberry that was supposed to be essentially AGI. We had serious news outlets write about senior people at OpenAI quitting because o1 was SkyNet Now we're up to o4, AGI is still not even in near site (depending on your definition, I know). And OpenAI is up to about 5000 employees. I'd think even before AGI a new model would be able to cover for at least 45…

Remember that Docusign has 7,000 employees. I think OpenAI is pretty lean for what they're accomplishing.

Yes and Amazon has 1.52 million employees. How many developers could they possibly need?

Or maybe it’s just nonsensical to compare the number of employees across companies - especially when they don’t do nearly the same thing.

On a related note, wait until you find out how many more employees that Apple has than Google since Apple has hundreds of retail employees.

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Lots of releases but very little actual performance increases

Sonnet and Gemini saw fairly substantial perf increases recenly

Love Sonnet but 3.7 is not obviously an improvement over 3.5 in my real world usage. Gemini 2.5 pro is great, has replaced most others for me (Grok I use for things that require realtime answers)

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Remember that Docusign has 7,000 employees. I think OpenAI is pretty lean for what they're accomplishing.

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The closest Elon ever came to anything Hague-worthy is allowing Starlink to be used in Ukrainian attacks on Russian civilian infrastructure. I don't think the Hague would be interested in anything like that. And if his life is worthless, then what would you say about your own? Nonetheless, I commend you on your complete lack of hinges. /s

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So at this point OpenAI has 6 reasoning models, 4 flagship chat models, and 7 cost optimized models. So that's 17 models in total and that's not even counting their older models and more specialized ones. Compare this with Anthropic that has 7 models in total and 2 main ones that they promote. This is just getting to be a bit much, seems like they are trying to cover for the fact that they haven't actually done much.…

"haven't actually done much" being popularizing the chat llm and absolutely dwarfing the competition in paid usage

They have 500M weekly users now. I would say that counts as doing something.
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