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Re: Gumroad’s source is available

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post #110

What a joke of a license. This is not open source. Why the fuck is everyone in VC land trying to change the true definition of open source?

Most of the VC open-source projects use open-source as a lead magnet/marketing tactic only, with no intention or desire of wanting people to actually use the software.

Yep. Bait & Switch. Which is exactly why you shouldn't contribute to open source projects that require a CLA.

Re: Gumroad’s source is available

#192
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://x.com/shl/status/1908146557708362188 Probably not entirely, but straight from the author.

Can't help but notice he's basically knowingly "donating" the code to multi-billion corporations to train their LLMs on (while in general those same corporations source their training data in ethically questionable ways), while mere mortal human individuals and small businesses are bound by a non-free license. An interesting decision to say the least.

i mean... what would any "mere mortals" use the code for other than to directly compete with Gumroad?

Re: Gumroad’s source is available

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post #193

is this the company where the CEO/ex CEO is trying to rejigger the VA? https://www.wired.com/story/doge-department-of-veterans-affa...

No, where'd you get that impression?

see article above

----- "These DOGE operatives appear to have no work experience that’s remotely close to the VA in terms of its scale or complexity. The VA administers all the government benefits afforded to veterans and their families for roughly 10 million people, including education, loans, disability payments, and health care. Lavingia is the CEO of Gumroad, a platform that helps creatives sell their work and takes a cut of each sale. More recently, according to his blog, Lavingia launched Flexile, a tool to manage and pay contractors. According to his LinkedIn profile, Lavingia was the second employee at Pinterest, which he left in 2011 to found Gumroad. Lavingia is also an angel investor in other startups via SHL Capital, which backed Clubhouse and Lambda School, among others."

Re: Gumroad’s source is available

#196
post #189

I tried to grep the code for `api.` to get a sense for all the vendors this codebase is using, and which you'd need to have relationships with to run the code. Here's what I found: payments: https://api.paypal.com https://api.stripe.com tax stuff: https://api.taxjar.com https://api.vatstack.com (EU VAT) https://apiservices.iras.gov.sg for iOS app (?): https://api.appstoreconnect.apple.com https://api.storekit.itunes.…

That's pretty refreshing compared to the average 400 external "partners" your average online t-shirt store has.

Re: Gumroad’s source is available

#197

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As if any court would accept this. Nice try

OpenAI is basically betting the existence of the company on that. Meta is betting the existence of their Llama models on it.

I don't think that's true. When chatgpt generates something that infringes (even on something not in the training data) it is still infringement and the output cannot be used by the user for anything they couldn't use the original for.

Luckily it doesn't do that often under normal use

Re: Gumroad’s source is available

#198

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Guarantee that all "nonfree open source" is different readings. Take the NASA case. If youu read it as strictly as Stallman does then it violates the OSD also. The people at OSI at the time it was submitted read it more like a lawyer and decided it was compliant. Possibly today's OSI would disagree. Possibly tomorrow's FSF would agree. It's not a difference between free software and open source but a difference betwe…

Which point of the OSD would be violated by the NASA clause if read the same way that the FSF reads it?

OSD 3

And possibly 9

Re: Gumroad’s source is available

#199
post #187

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Thanks, this is new to me and not something I could infer from OP's link.

I think the original title for this submission also called it open source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43580533

Yes indeed, but OP is not Gumroad.

Re: Gumroad’s source is available

#200

What a joke of a license. This is not open source. Why the fuck is everyone in VC land trying to change the true definition of open source?

The licensor grants you a copyright license for the software to do everything you might do with the software that would otherwise infringe the licensor's copyright, but only as long as you meet all the conditions below. Am I going insane, or is there a reading of this that seems to imply you can use the software, to infringe on ANY work Gumroad has created? "...grants you a copyright license for the software" seems t…

No you're not insane, it's much harder to follow than most source available licenses I've seen.
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