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LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Re: LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Post by antifa »

carlosjobim wrote: post #183
cf100clunk wrote: post #179

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Current events are motivating people and their stores and governments to not choose U.S. products. The motivation is strong and widespread. I would have to think that sensible marketing folks in the U.S. have to be wargaming the effects upon their bottom line when their product lines are under such suppressing forces: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/f35-blair-trump-1.7484477

If that becomes reality, what would you expect the US companies to do?

They could put pressure on the US government to enact economic reforms and stability or they can accept that sales will be down during Great Depression 2.

Re: LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Post by dimitarbogdanov »

atoav wrote: post #190
vunderba wrote: post #2

If I'm evaluating a potential application whose core functionality does not require external resources/servers (Dropbox for example) and they don't at a minimum offer some kind of perpetual fallback license (aka the Jetbrains annual subscription model), then I straight up bounce. Examples of good alternatives - Pixelmator > Photoshop - Davinci Resolve > Premiere - Reaper > Audition I have no interest in renting my to…

Resolve is cool for pro users for others who basically just want to do small edits with straightforward software chrck out kdenlive

Honestly, Resolve isn't that difficult, especially if you're OK with watching some tutorials to get used to it. It's certainly no more difficult than Premiere (for basic tasks, of course).

Re: LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Post by thewebguyd »

vunderba wrote: post #24
publicola1990 wrote: post #22

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Isn't it dogmatic to think so. Sometimes it makes sense to rent tools.

Naturally. I've rented an mini excavator in the past to dig up stumps for a one time job. It made sense more sense to rent it since it was for a one-time task, and purchasing the kubota would have cost more than 5k. Given we're on HN news, I thought it was implied that I was referring mostly to the exhaustion at being faced with a perpetually increasing amount of rent-seeking in the form of SaaS.

Additionally, for a lot of professional software, we aren't given the option for short term rental. For creative cloud, I pay monthly but agree on a annual basis. There's a more expensive month-to-month sub, but still you have it at minimum for a whole month.

With software subscriptions, I don't have the option of saying "I need to rent lightroom for 3 hours to edit this session." and have it be priced accordingly. No matter what, I'm on the hook for at minimum a month. On the flip side of that, since I use it so frequently, it's insulting that my only option is just to rent it. I can buy other tools outright and own them, so I'd also like to own my digital tools as well.

Re: LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Post by insane_dreamer »

lauritz wrote: post #86

To my surprise, what used to be called iWork has been my main "Office" replacement for years now. It's good enough, and it's free. I have switched over most of the non-technical people in my life to it, and they have no issues using it (except if they email a .pages document to a Windows user). I especially enjoy Numbers and the way you can arrange multiple tables on a page. It's a different paradigm coming from Goog…

Have used Pages/Numbers/Keynote for years, alongside MS Word/Excel/Powerpoint, and always found the former to have better or nicer workflows for most tasks, and especially for page layouts. (Excel is however superior for very large or complex spreadsheets.) Highly underrated software.

Re: LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Post by carlosjobim »

antifa wrote: post #191
carlosjobim wrote: post #183

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If that becomes reality, what would you expect the US companies to do?

They could put pressure on the US government to enact economic reforms and stability or they can accept that sales will be down during Great Depression 2.

So giant corporations should pressure democratically elected leaders to go against the policies that their people elected them for, to benefit foreign interests? And the person telling me this is somebody who has taken their username from an active terrorist organization who favors political violence to forward a socialist ideology. You might not be a member of such an organization, maybe just an admirer. I don't need to know, and probably the surveillance organizations we're talking about in this thread already know what they want to know.

And the motivation for all of this is that people would "not feel safe" by the threat of some word processing or spreadsheet software.

To me it seems that people here are doubling into themselves into the highest confusion.

Re: LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Post by p0w3n3d »

once_inc wrote: post #102
p0w3n3d wrote: post #73

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It's simple. I buy a computer and buy the software. This software is installed on this computer and will will work unless the computer is broken. When you bought a CASIO keyboard you do not expect it to stop working after 3 years because it's installed newest updates. Of course CASIO is not connected to the internet, it won't allow me to steer it with my fancy phone app. So maybe, just maybe, connecting everything to…

Darktable is an excellent lightroom replacement that does exactly what you need it to do for people that open it once every 5 months.

Thanks. Will check

Re: LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Post by tracker1 »

specproc wrote: post #142
nxpnsv wrote: post #67

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I really enjoy the affinity suite.

Yeah, likewise, just wish they did Linux

Same.. it'd totally be a take my money moment... same for Topaz Labs' software. Though I accept that I'm a minority user and it probably isn't worth the efforts for them... similar to codec support issues for Davinci Resolve's free version on linux.

Re: LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Post by tracker1 »

UncleSlacky wrote: post #95
fodkodrasz wrote: post #63

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Paint.Net on Windows. Though on Windows there is Paint, that is less capable, but still no equivalent is on MacOS OOTB. (Also the drama around Paint is worth its own bashing). I'd be interested in a similar basic tool as paint for mac and Linux (and possibly also for windows, if MS crappifies Paint, after it has tried to kill it earlier)

Pinta (essentially a reimplementation of Paint.NET) exists for MacOS as well as Linux and Windows: https://www.pinta-project.com/releases/

I want to like Pinta, but some of the load/save behaviors are just weird... not sure if I last tried the Flatpak version or not, but I've tried it on both Mac and Linux a few times... It's my go to for quick edits, but far from a fav.

Re: LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs

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Post by thiht »

lauritz wrote: post #86

To my surprise, what used to be called iWork has been my main "Office" replacement for years now. It's good enough, and it's free. I have switched over most of the non-technical people in my life to it, and they have no issues using it (except if they email a .pages document to a Windows user). I especially enjoy Numbers and the way you can arrange multiple tables on a page. It's a different paradigm coming from Goog…

I also use the iWork suite because that's what I have, and I despise Numbers

Pages and Keynote are fine but I can't for the life of me figure out how to do anything with Numbers. It looks beautiful and I want to like it but as you say it's (too) different from Excel, at least for me.

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