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Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by littlecranky67 »

whazor wrote: post #149
globular-toast wrote: post #137

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It would mean that if they are operating at a loss and hoping to capture more of the market later. But if they're profitable then the main danger is a competitor coming along. Growth mindset is a big part of our sick society, unfortunately. It's the only thing our politicians like to talk about, after all. Being a stable business delivering value is as good as dead.

Kagi is the only paid search engine and they are already profitable: https://blog.kagi.com/what-is-next-for-kagi I think the bigger danger is the competition around AI chat assistants. There are other paid assistants, but you already see that even the paid assistants are getting trained to promote certain corporations.

Bing Chat (chatgpt without login) has replaced more than 80% of my searches. Still with kagi for the remaining 20% but if my searches run out I probably use duck again for those

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Post by qingcharles »

titaphraz wrote: post #19

Pintrest owns all the top 7 blocked results. Good, they've earned it. I never understood why Google let them destroy Google Image search results.

I'm one of the minority that loves Pinterest. Happy to have them in my results, honestly. A lot of times they are the only remaining source for a specific image that has faded from the rest of the Internet.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by qingcharles »

randomNumber7 wrote: post #139
omoikane wrote: post #70

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Apparently Pinterest has half a billion users[1], presumably significant number of those appreciate those search results. I am also going to guess that there is little overlap between those 500M users with HN's 5M users[2] or Kagi's 43K users[3]. So while those results-gated-behind-logins might seem annoying to us, we are in the minority. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/463353/pinterest-global-... [2] https:/…

Interesting. I didn't even know pinterest is a legitimate site. I just assumed it is som SEO scam from looking at the website for a few seconds.

It's actually a fantastic site. I use it for bookmarking images every day for future projects.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by qingcharles »

djhn wrote: post #109
harrall wrote: post #100

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I like Pinterest a lot. I find art, tattoo ideas, home decor, concrete/wood builds, clothing fits, wedding themes… It’s like a one-stop-shop when you need some fresh ideas on design.

It also has a ludicrously smooth and fast UX and makes it possible to access the high resolution original photographs (up to 100+ megapixels) by modifying url parameters.

I use Pinterest a ton. What param can I use to extract the original res?

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by djhn »

qingcharles wrote: post #194
djhn wrote: post #109

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It also has a ludicrously smooth and fast UX and makes it possible to access the high resolution original photographs (up to 100+ megapixels) by modifying url parameters.

I use Pinterest a ton. What param can I use to extract the original res?

Images are served from i.pinimg.com/ and the url params can be changed from "[0-9]+x(\/[0-9a-f]{2}){3}\/[0-9a-f]{32}\.jpg" to "originals/(\/[0-9a-f]{2}){3}\/[0-9a-f]{32}\.(jpg|png)".

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by qingcharles »

djhn wrote: post #195
qingcharles wrote: post #194

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I use Pinterest a ton. What param can I use to extract the original res?

Images are served from i.pinimg.com/ and the url params can be changed from "[0-9]+x(\/[0-9a-f]{2}){3}\/[0-9a-f]{32}\.jpg" to "originals/(\/[0-9a-f]{2}){3}\/[0-9a-f]{32}\.(jpg|png)".

Awesome, thank you.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by speerer »

KomoD wrote: post #190
speerer wrote: post #148

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Do we know that they spend money on this or is that inferred? I asked because the search you've linked to only seems to list relatively niche chess videos on one creator's account. And the videos themselves are also ad-supported. It's (at least) not impossible that the sponsorship association is not budgeted in the way that (I think) you infer.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40013889 https://kagifeedback.org/d/3822-kagi-is-sponsoring-youtube-v... "I watched Daniel King for 10 years and have previously donated to him, now I am happy that we are in position to sponsor his work which I believe is extraordinary.", this also definitely sounds like monetary compensation to me.

Thanks! I see why they may not consider this "marketing", even though it is obviously a sponsorship based on that information.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by registeredcorn »

yellowapple wrote: post #98
kjs3 wrote: post #78

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I assume with the 'popularity' bias (probably not the right phrase) in the modern internet this is pretty much the future of search. Someone comes up with something cool, posts a pix, and someone else puts it on Twit/Face/Tube/whatever and it gets reposted over and over and over and since the original is some worthless peon as far as the algorithm is concerned you'll never, ever find them.

I wonder if that's something that can be addressed by embedding the right metadata into images/videos? Most people don't bother even checking e.g. Exif data (let alone stripping or otherwise altering it) when reposting content they find online.

I can't speak for every platform but when I was working with frequent photo posts, most in-camera or post-editing metadata was stripped out on instagram and facebook. Some smaller sites like Gab didn't seem to mess with it as much, but the bulk did. I wouldn't be surprised if all of the other big ones did, too.

It was incredibly disheartening to have no recourse to attribute my own work, other than to smear some gross watermark on it. The automatic removal of that metadata, along with AI image generation, are some of the reasons why I gave up on the hobby entirely.

It's incredibly hard and stressful to derive any sort of pleasure or interest from something when the second it's exposed to the internet, any sense of humanity you tried to attach to it is stripped away, burned, and commercialized for the monetary benefit of some ethereal financier. It's the sound of an invisible vacuum cleaner, whisking away any sense of joy or life you wanted to share with the world for common love; the death of sharing. For-pay hugs.

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