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Post by throwme999 »

throw80521 wrote: post #184
throwme999 wrote: post #176

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> Now I don't bother to follow a strict schedule except for work things. Huh, "just" that? If I could do that I'd feel like I'm on the freaking top of the world.

Yeah, I get it. It really is exactly how you describe, compared to how I lived before at least - like being on top of the world all the time. No organizational tools or anything required, except maybe a couple calendar reminders for big events each month. No alarm either, now I wake up naturally each day and still get enough time to prepare for work each morning and maybe even watch a bit of TV. (To be fair, I'd prob…

I'm glad you worked it out!

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

rsanek wrote: post #103
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #89

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I was diagnosed with ADHD because I scored in the 10th percentile for some totally normal use cases of the human brain. You know, normal “being human” stuff. Evidently I can’t do normal human stuff. I think getting ADHD isn’t special or interesting at the population level—when you aren’t face to face with it—but it certainly matters to individuals. I wanted to believe I was just being a human, but the reality is that…

is tenth percentile for some measures really that bad? hard to say, but i don't think that if double-digit percentages of people have some attribute that it should be labeled a disease or exceptional. i have been diagnosed as having ADHD multiple times, both as a kid as well as an adult. my parents decided not to put me on drugs, and as an adult, i have found behavioral interventions to be the most useful. i have not…

For what it's worth, I was using the tenth as a category of 0–10. I actually scored lower (3rd and 7th). Kind of giving myself a nominal leg up here, haha. My brain is running on half a cylinder sometimes, I guess.

A couple scores were still quite low at the 15th and 22nd. Those are clearly issues for me as well, though nowhere near as much. I don't know, I think this stuff makes a meaningful difference. For the cognitive attributes I scored far higher in (high 90s in some cases), it's abundantly clear what a disadvantage many people are at in that regard. Even someone scoring closer to the 50th.

You could say it all balances out, but it doesn't seem to. The high scores I get are all undermined significantly outside of test settings. Major deficits have a serious toll on you. I'm not complaining at all, though. To me it's a fact of life, something to accept and address (with behavioural interventions as you mentioned), and try to find strategies to move forward. You get what life gives you. Generally speaking, it could be a lot worse. I'm very grateful for the parts of my brain that work well.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by novoreorx »

dbreunig wrote: post #11

Nice! Great idea and focus. I have a similar function built into my app, which takes the proposed name for a checklist and description and uses it to generate steps. Have heard many use it for executive function management: https://steplist.app

In the age of AI, human-written instructions are not only intriguing and valuable but also more dependable and meaningful than those created by AI.

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Post by xp84 »

gcanyon wrote: post #182
BaudouinVH wrote: post #13

I've ADHD and I'm on the spectrum. Others may differ - it's a spectrum after all- but I feel no list-only app will ever silence the drunk baboon on my shoulder constantly pulling my attention from what I'm doing. I'd advise goblin.tools to market itself differently and aim for the neurotypical market as well. #my2cents

I'm not diagnosed anything, but I'm a paid user because of Magic ToDo -- and I don't even use it that often. It really is magic, and I use it most often as a demonstration of what LLMs are capable of in somewhat unusual use cases.

I’m quite NT and I tried Magic Todo and was impressed. This is really a great application of the tech.

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Post by h0l0cube »

dijit wrote: post #116
dwaltrip wrote: post #109

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My understanding is that ADHD prevalence is closer to 5-10%. That's the number I've seen most by reputable sources. Nonetheless, the rest of your post resonates with me and and your points stand on their own :)

I think its unknowable, but I definitely read 30% expected undiagnosed in the population. Here is a reputable source that claims 25% https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/mediaroom/pressreleaselisting/...

Once it's at this level of prevalence, can it really be considered neurologically atypical?

The broader point that's often missed is that this is a naturally occurring and common phenotype that doesn't gel well with office-work culture and the modern regimented schooling system, forcing people to sit for unnaturally long times focusing on anxiety-inducing problem solving all day. It's not normal, and it's a recipe for burnout, and our only answer, is not to change the system, but to try and medicate it away, with sometimes devastating consequences.

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Post by mathieuh »

danaris wrote: post #164
fullstackchris wrote: post #141

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Definitely agree there. There seems like there is a label for EVERYTHING these days. Coincidentally there was an article in the paper I saw just today about how destructive self diagnosis can be (and how many gen z / alpha are doing that via tiktok) I rememeber when some first tried to explain ADHD to me... and I was like... "what? elementary school kids dont like sitting in a classroom for 6 hours a day? so like, be…

I think what's incredibly important to remember is that ADHD is not a binary thing. It's not even a single spectrum. It's a cluster of executive-function-related symptoms, any number of which a given person with the disorder can have a little, a lot, or even not at all. (I forget what all of them are offhand, but I have about a half-dozen of them in noticeable amounts, and several others that seriously debilitate man…

I used to look at ADHD with scepticism until I met someone who it to a debilitating level. Shared a room with them once at a conference and seeing them in the morning before taking their pills was eye-opening. They were trying to have about 10 conversations at once, switching between them from sentence-to-sentence, every time they sat down to do something they instantly sprang up and started doing something else before springing up and switching yet again to something else, it was exhausting for me and I was just watching.

Whether I believe that the number of people who actually get diagnosed with ADHD is correct, especially in places that have medical systems and cultures like the USA, I’m not sure, but certainly I now see how for some people it can be completely disabling.

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Post by petesergeant »

quibono wrote: post #44

This could be overgeneralising a bit... but I see a lot of people with ADHD (on- and offline) who tend to make it an essential part of their identity. I realise it's a very impactful thing to have to deal with (I have ADHD too) but I feel like a lot of the time it's brought up for no real reason. E.g. you started daydreaming when reading a book? Forgot something to do when you walked through a doorway? Got angry? You…

If you want a test for Huntington’s Disease in the UK — a terrible degenerative disease — they basically tell you no. You can appeal and do a long course of genetic counselling where at the end they’ll give you the choice, if you still want one.

This is the reason: people who know they’re definitely carrying the gene will start to ascribe any clumsiness, any brain fog, anything at all to the disease once they know they’re definitely carrying definitely have it.

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Post by mohaba »

throw80521 wrote: post #188
_carbyau_ wrote: post #165

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I'm not the author of the post you critique. I suspect if you just have a "label" it doesn't do much. But the label now makes information a keyword search away. Hence their commentary: instead I can learn from and lean on hundreds of thousands of other people who have to cope with the same thing. Which would lead to learning strategies to deal with the day to day rather than struggling to find your own way. Knowledge…

> the label now makes information a keyword search away I think this can become a double-edged sword in some cases. When applied to certain problems, especially ones with no clear-cut solution, additional knowledge can end up being misleading. (Disclaimer: this is only my experience, and I do not intend to speak for others!) Example, I always used to frame issues I worked with in the language of ADHD, because I belie…

You stop for food?

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Post by gs17 »

huvarda wrote: post #21

I asked it to break down eating a pie, this is what I got: Choose a pie Gather necessary utensils (fork, plate, napkin) Place the pie on the plate Cut a slice of the pie Pick up the slice with the fork Bring the slice to your mouth Take a bite of the pie Chew and savor the flavor Repeat until finished Dispose of any leftovers responsibly Clean up the utensils and plate Maybe an absurd example but I feel like somethin…

And then if you asked for a time estimate it would probably take hours to eat that slice. (not mocking the app, I like the idea, I just think its estimation feature is funny)
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