Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site. What trends are we seeing?

Post by cvalka » Mon, Mar 24, 2025, 10:55 AM UTC

darkhorn wrote: post #112

apexalpha wrote: post #45

At my (enterprise) job there has been a noticable shift in attitude. We've just decided to use Mistral for OCR, even though everything we currently use is embedded in Azure / IntelDocs or something. Usually any push for EU products would be dismissed because of the initial friction compared to SV products. This seems to have shifted significantly all the way to the top. Everyone seems on board to just accept more fri…

I hope also devolopers get rid of Nginx becaouse it is Russian/American software.

Post by fedeb95 » Mon, Mar 24, 2025, 10:55 AM UTC

bad_user wrote: post #72

fedeb95 wrote: post #57

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the difference being that the EU is in the market. The US is easing its debt by boosting profits, but this will only work temporarily. Otherwise, the US will gradually slip out of the market. Of course no one has a crystal ball, or if someone has one it doesn't really predict the future... we'll see!

Mercantilism doesn't work, there's plenty of evidence that the current policies are really bad for the US and the global economy, there's no silver lining to them, not even the temporary "boosting profits", which won't happen. If the future can't be predicted that's because one can't predict when Trump and his imbeciles will be stripped of power.

Post by notTooFarGone » Mon, Mar 24, 2025, 10:56 AM UTC

_7acn wrote: post #97

For me personally, it’s completely irrelevant. As a European, I feel exactly the same kind of “connection” to Europe as I do to the USA. It’s a different story when it comes to the country I live in. If a local (national) product is comparable to a foreign one, I’ll usually choose the local one. But all this EU vs USA fuss means nothing to me. I often choose American products simply because they’re the best.

Post by em500 » Mon, Mar 24, 2025, 10:58 AM UTC

logifail wrote: post #20

avh02 wrote: post #16

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why would Europeans not like it? edit: aha, misread the comment, i read it as, roughly: "europeans would not like it if americans start looking at the european alternatives", not "looking at alternatives to european products" - yes, i agree, Europeans would not like that.

"In 2022, 692,334 new EU-made cars were exported to the US, worth €36bn ($37bn; £30bn). While only 116,207 new US-made cars went in the opposite direction, for €5.2bn." https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq8kn5v37wxo

Post by gkbrk » Mon, Mar 24, 2025, 10:59 AM UTC

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #192

mentalgear wrote: post #3

It's one thing to visit the website, but I would be interested what % is actually migrating? For me personally, I had to install the "Go European" browser extension [1] before I actually started switching, due to more frequent reminders, from using mostly chatGPT/claude to LeChat by mistral (which feels at least as good). My Take-away: User stickiness is hard to break due to providers' walled gardens, even for me who…

For privacy reasons, I've already started slowly switching away from US providers before all this insanity happened. I've switched my Email to Proton (Swiss), cloud files to Filen (German), most LLM usage to Mistral (French), and search to Ecosia (German). [Edit: I've now switched to Mojeek; see comments below.] But in the past two weeks, I've done the things I've previously put off because they require real work. I'…