London's Heathrow Airport announces complete shutdown due to power outage

Post by margalabargala » Fri, Mar 21, 2025, 6:57 PM UTC

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joshuanapoli wrote: post #155

It's not the first time a major airport is down because of power failure, and other airports are working to address this type of vulnerability. > The power vulnerability for airports was never made more obvious and painful than in Atlanta seven years ago. An underground electrical system fire in late 2017 damaged two substations and caused a complete outage lasting nearly 12 hours at Hartsfield-Jackson International…

Heathrow's power outage is much worse than Atlanta's, this is really bad. Allow me to make my point: 1. UK’s has one major airport to get out of the country—Heathrow. Gatwick and that lot don’t carry the same weight. When Heathrow goes down, you’re proper stuck. Atlanta has DC, Miami right there. 2. UK allows transit visas, so half the people transiting can’t even step out the terminal, what do they do when the airpo…

Post by michh » Fri, Mar 21, 2025, 7:06 PM UTC

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What a weird take. Arresting someone for reporting a major security vulnerability is pretty shitty thing for a state to do. What you're suggesting is that that's not actually that bad. Same sort of logic that leads to people getting arrested for looking at HTML and reporting that it includes passwords.

> What you're suggesting is that that's not actually that bad. When did I ever say or imply that? I agree that intelligence agencies are draconian, but to imply that you'd be locked away (never to be heard from again) for pointing out that a substation could be bombed and cause power issues is ridiculous.

Post by margalabargala » Fri, Mar 21, 2025, 7:09 PM UTC

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> When Heathrow goes down, you’re proper stuck. Atlanta has DC, Miami right there "right there" It is a ten hour drive from Atlanta to DC. It is a nine hour drive from Atlanta to Miami. It is a six hour drive from Heathrow to Paris.

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Post by 4ndrewl » Fri, Mar 21, 2025, 7:14 PM UTC

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No, but it does include the time to get yourself and your vehicle on to and off of the train that carries vehicles through the Channel Tunnel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeShuttle

Post by mhb » Fri, Mar 21, 2025, 7:15 PM UTC

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" [...] national security is widely understood to include also non-military dimensions, such as the security from terrorism, minimization of crime, economic security, energy security, environmental security, food security, and cyber-security. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security Large-scale issues that impact the economy are typically under the "national security" umbrella. It's a term that uses the broa…

While I agree with you, this is a huge issue with the term "security" and what it means to "provide security" as a government, because at some point almost everything can be labeled as a "national security threat" if it happens to be against the political desiderata of any one controlling said governments at a certain moment in time. I feel like this sort of "security reflex" only got worst after 9/11, it was already…