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Shared Google Docs.
Google Docs isn’t near the same as Notion. Not even close. Notion treats information as a repository and keeps things indexed, searchable, and has some ways to automatically sort things, has ability to seamlessly create different types of documents and weave them together and so much more that Docs lack. Docs doesn’t even have native markdown support last I checked
This tool is part of a WIP complete suite of tools for public agents called "La suite numérique". https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr
adding to this, it seems to me like most of the projects are yet to be open sourced. the github currently has docs and their video conferencing tool (which also looks great): https://github.com/suitenumerique
Why am I starting to believe that france is now more culturally shited towards being a new super power in this multi polar world instead of USA. Seriously , I never used to really think about france that much , but Emmanuel Macron correcting trump on live air really made me trust france more as a non US citizen.
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I say that this isn't really productive, and I would argue that the French government's involvement played a big part in this trending on HN in the first place.
This is a really great project from both the French and German governments. I think state-funded open source solutions to digital platforms is a fantastic opportunity to get away from the big tech walled gardens. Of course, there is always the risk that this becomes unmaintained in the future, but the community at least can take over. But until then, it's a nice platform and a nice contribution to the community.
I haven't thought about this a ton - but am I wrong that it sounds crazy and inefficient for the government to essentially compete with private industry? It feels like a colliding of worlds and a cannibalization that doesn't make sense to me. Like - if the government launched a messaging app competitive with WhatsApp and it drew users away from WhatsApp and it had better encryption ... Would that actually be better f…
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Tchap looks neat as a Slack alternative, but it seems like it's still only for government workers.
We use Mattermost at work, and apart from the mobile app being a bit shit, and search being kind of useless, it's easily as good as Slack. In some ways it's better, e.g. you can use proper Markdown in messages instead of Slack's Mrkdwn abomination that doesn't even allow links. I wish they would improve search though; it's kind of a critical feature in a company.
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Y Combinator. They gave it away to all of them. This is how you become popular with startups.
That's really gross. I guess then everyone thinks they need to use it because all these startups use it, but it's really just a simple notepad app with many alternatives.
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Y Combinator. They gave it away to all of them. This is how you become popular with startups.
That's really gross. I guess then everyone thinks they need to use it because all these startups use it, but it's really just a simple notepad app with many alternatives.
It's really just standard "voluntary lock-in": any knowledge system you decide to use locks you into that knowledge system simply because you're going to be generating tons of content in it, which may at some point need to be migrated, and the longer you use it the more of a hassle that'll be.
And if it feels a bit gross (it's not, really, it's just what happens when someone has a good sales pitch) they're not holding your content hostage like some other platforms *cough*zendesk*cough*.
This is a really great project from both the French and German governments. I think state-funded open source solutions to digital platforms is a fantastic opportunity to get away from the big tech walled gardens. Of course, there is always the risk that this becomes unmaintained in the future, but the community at least can take over. But until then, it's a nice platform and a nice contribution to the community.
I agree wholeheartedly with your point.
Government-funded open source like this, creating alternatives is a good idea. Taxes put to good use!
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Notion is not an example of delightful software and it is very much one of the most reproducible apps ever. I don't know how they managed to make it fashionable amongst startups, but it's certainly not because it's an innovative product.
it is very much one of the most reproducible apps ever Would love to move to an alternative that also works in the browser, got any suggestions? I haven't found one that does what Notion does. I genuinely want to get off their AI training grounds but cannot. Your comment reeks of condescension because you are not the target user.
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Sorry mate. hackernews's open source alternative thread is definitely not the right place for this comment. It would have been greater on a hackernews's more political thread and point out the france open sourcing efforts in that point. Do you want me to delete this comment? I totally would if you want.
Don't delete it, he's trying to restrict your free speech.
All I’m saying is that only because French and German government paid for this piece of open source software, maybe next time look in the mirror and ask yourself first:
Is this really about Macron vs Trump?
Instead of looking at this as me restricting your free speech, this is an intervention and I encourage you to not see Trump and Macron in everything.