The death of Touch ID. Also huge.
I occasionally use my iPhone 8 Plus and don't immediately remember why it feels so nice to use. Then I remember it's the touch ID button
Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
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#192Pro: action button Con(?): 60 Hz And the price hike again shows that Apple is the master of the "for just a few hundred dollars more, you can get...“ upsell to bigger iPhones.
60hz is really taking the piss at this point, if they must reserve 120hz for the Pro line then the least they could do is use 90hz further down the stack.
Apple is the king us using old kit and marketing it as innovative. On the flip side, 26 hours of video playback on battery is crazy long, and 60Hz is a big contributor to that.
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's possible the battery chemistry has also changed. In the last 12-18 months, a bunch of Android phones have gotten large battery capacity upgrades, apparently thanks to silicon-carbon anodes being mature enough for mass production. Presumably Apple is now doing the sam thing.
> In the last 12-18 months, a bunch of Android phones have gotten large battery capacity upgrades Can you give some examples? I'd like to test one out but I'm not buying the most recent product as a rule.
The OnePlus 13 and Oppo Find X8 both got 10% capacity upgrades over their previous iterations but with the same size/weight. The Honor Magic V2 also has a huge battery despite being a very slim foldable (5,000 mAh, compared to 3,000-3,500 on the ones from Samsung and Google).
Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's possible the battery chemistry has also changed. In the last 12-18 months, a bunch of Android phones have gotten large battery capacity upgrades, apparently thanks to silicon-carbon anodes being mature enough for mass production. Presumably Apple is now doing the sam thing.
> In the last 12-18 months, a bunch of Android phones have gotten large battery capacity upgrades Can you give some examples? I'd like to test one out but I'm not buying the most recent product as a rule.
Oneplus 13 with lithium-silicon battery tech. This is the new tech which allows for higher capacity at the same size as before.
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The most interesting part is of course the Modem. In addition, they are said to have replaced the WiFi/Bluetooth chip with one developed in-house. > Apple Inc.’s ambitious plan to create in-house components for its devices will include switching to a homegrown chip for Bluetooth and Wi-Fi connections starting next year, a move that will replace some parts currently provided by Broadcom Inc. https://www.bloomberg.co…
Hopefully these new cellular, wifi and bluetooth basebands can avoid the zero-day fame of their predecessors.
I would assume that Apple's new firmware would have been written in a memory safe language.
They did make some noise about enabling Swift for embedded development at last years WWDC.
Although Qualcomm's big zero day last year was related to the DSP and not the baseband, I believe.
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#196Looks more and more that Apple is pushing AI inference to the edges, with this and the Mac Mini and it's very suspiciously placed power button which says "No, you don't need to shut this computer off. It has important work to do! (For everyone else)"
Will be interesting to see how Apple and Nvidia's approaches to AI compare and contrast over the coming months/years.
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#197Check out the battery life! > iPhone 16e has the best battery life ever on a 6.1-inch iPhone, lasting up to six hours longer than iPhone 11 and up to 12 hours longer than all generations of iPhone SE. Their page comparing models claims the new 16e gets "26 hours video playback." iPhone 16e: 26 hours iPhone 16: 22 hours iPhone 15: 20 hours iPhone 14: 20 hours iPhone 13: 19 hours iPhone 12: 17 hours iPhone 11: 17 hours…
Its been a long slog for Apple, they have been working on this since 2018, and they had to keep extending its supply agreements with Qualcomm...
"Inside Apple’s Spectacular Failure to Build a Key Part for Its New iPhones"
>The 2018 marching orders from Apple Chief Executive Tim Cook to design and build a modem chip—a part that connects iPhones to wireless carriers—led to the hiring of thousands of engineers. The goal was to sever Apple’s grudging dependence on Qualcomm, a longtime chip supplier that dominates the modem market. The obstacles to finishing the chip were largely of Apple’s own making, according to former company engineers and executives familiar with the project. Apple had planned to have its modem chip ready to use in the new iPhone models. But tests late last year found the chip was too slow and prone to overheating. Its circuit board was so big it would take up half an iPhone, making it unusable.
https://kanebridgenews.com/inside-apples-spectacular-failure... [2023]
Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#198At this point there’s only really one thing I want from an iPhone and that’s an option for a 12/13 mini sized device again. Surely those phones didn’t sell so few that it’s not worth doing at all?
If they can standardize their whole lineup around two sizes, regular and max, then I think it will be a very hard sell to add extra work and complexity for the production lines for a smaller size that sells both lower volumes and lower price. Don't get me wrong, I love the Mini and have one right now, but from a business management perspective I can totally see how getting rid of it makes sense.
Another aspect that I think is often missed is that the Mini physically cannot offer the same battery life as other iPhones. Many say they don't mind this, but over time as the battery life deteriorates, it becomes a pain point all the same. I think that is another aspect of why they don't like the small form factor.
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#199iPhone SE: $429, 4.7-inch display, 5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29, 5.09 ounces iPhone 16e: $599, 6.1-inch display, 5.78 x 2.82 x 0.31, 5.88 ounces This is a major downgrade in every way for people who want the smallest possible iPhone.
The SE is not the smallest possible modern iPhone, just the smallest screen. The 13 mini has a larger screen but is physically smaller.
The 13 mini was discontinued in 2023.
The smallest possible iPhone ever was possibly the original iPhone.
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#200Pro: action button Con(?): 60 Hz And the price hike again shows that Apple is the master of the "for just a few hundred dollars more, you can get...“ upsell to bigger iPhones.
60hz is really taking the piss at this point, if they must reserve 120hz for the Pro line then the least they could do is use 90hz further down the stack.
60hz refresh is totally fine, there's no reason to be salty about it.