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Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#191

I tried to solve this problem by making AI rank the stories by significance and rewriting the news titles in a boring, factual style. I think it worked quite well, there's only about 10 headlines a day (out of 15k+) that get a significance rating higher than of 5.5 out of 10. It also helps avoiding the overfocus on western issues and actually learn what's happening around the world. https://www.newsminimalist.com/

That's a pretty cool website! What prompt do you use to determine what is and isn't significant?

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#192

If you're outraged by anything that does not directly impact your life you're doing life wrong. We all have limited time and energy. I have never been able to understand people who get emotional over things they read online that have no impact on their day to day life.

> If you're outraged by anything that does not directly impact your life you're doing life wrong. This is a pointless truism. Everything relies on "does not directly impact your life", and there's no useful guidance on that point.

It's not pointless at all- it's the core idea behind Stoic philosophy aka "the dichotomy of control," and has proven very effective at improving people's mental health through modern therapy methods like CBT and ACT.

One can still do everything in their power to prepare for, and mitigate things outside their control, while still keeping in mind what is in your control and isn't so you don't become emotionally dependent on outcomes outside your control, which is ruinous for mental health.

Having empathy, and caring about doing the right thing actually work better when you stop obsessing over and wasting all of your energy on things you cannot control.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#193

After November I totally stopped looking at any and all news and social media with the exception of HN. My reasoning being that you are not actually getting informed by any of those sources. They are geared towards engagement which makes them entertainment. Also, I have absolutely no power to change anything happening right now so knowing about it is just going to make me upset. It's a lose lose IMO. A lot of folks h…

This exactly, even before November.

I finally saw the futility when there were 10,000 articles about Trump tweeting "covfefe".

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#194

One thing to consider for those of us who are more sensitive to online outrage is to just quit social media all together. I’m technically gen z and I’ve been off of social media (aside from HN, WhatsApp and discord) for years and you wouldn’t believe how great it’s been for my overall state of mind. Reddit, instagram, X, Facebook, TikTok, LinkedIn, Threads, etc are all the equivalent of digital junk food and I’d argu…

If you decide not to totally quit a network, do what I do:

1. Turn off all notifications, especially for replies, likes, and content suggestions.

2. Train yourself not to look for feedback on the things you do post as a matter of habit. Intentionally check on the important discussions IFF you _remember_ to do so.

3. If possible, hide or remove any karma-like indications. Your life is better if the internet points aren't visible.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#195

Why is it even important to stay informed? In virtually all cases, there's very little that I can do about anything, so I'm just wasting energy by looking at the news.

> Why is it even important to stay informed?

So that you stay in formation with everyone else, of course!

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#196
> Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk alone; you don’t want to “go out of your way to make trouble.” Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty

> Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, “everyone” is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, “It’s not so bad” or “You’re seeing things” or “You’re an alarmist.”

> But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds of thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions, would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the “German Firm” stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all of the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

     - From "They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45"

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#197

Why is it even important to stay informed? In virtually all cases, there's very little that I can do about anything, so I'm just wasting energy by looking at the news.

Because the behavior of your chosen leaders reflects on you? Ostracism is a thing.

From the "greed" point of view - because your chosen leaders can have dramatic and immediate impact on your net wealth.

Even if hedonistic, "I have no assets", your chosen leaders will choose how comfortable your life is.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#198
post #145

Why is it an axiom that we need to "stay informed"? The vast majority of news is things that don't affect you, and of the things that do affect you, the vast majority of that is things you can't do anything about. And if they do affect you you're sure to find out without following the news. The news is tailored to make you feel outraged so that you will consume more of it. As far as social media goes, just don't foll…

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. —Martin Niemöller the goal of fascist political propaganda is to convince you that you…

> the goal of fascist political propaganda is to convince you that you can't do anything about the state of the world

What are you doing about it?

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

my advice to you that cant breathe it in is leave your fantasy where propaganda is pollution and join reality where it does not impact you. also if you live in reality instead of the fantasy, you will just be less outraged in general.

You realize that pursuading people to accept terrible acts as normal and not outrageous is the primary aim of much propaganda, correct?

Name one.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#200

One thing to consider for those of us who are more sensitive to online outrage is to just quit social media all together. I’m technically gen z and I’ve been off of social media (aside from HN, WhatsApp and discord) for years and you wouldn’t believe how great it’s been for my overall state of mind. Reddit, instagram, X, Facebook, TikTok, LinkedIn, Threads, etc are all the equivalent of digital junk food and I’d argu…

If you decide not to totally quit a network, do what I do: 1. Turn off all notifications, especially for replies, likes, and content suggestions. 2. Train yourself not to look for feedback on the things you do post as a matter of habit. Intentionally check on the important discussions IFF you _remember_ to do so. 3. If possible, hide or remove any karma-like indications. Your life is better if the internet points are…

Just use the webapp too, when possible. Remove all native apps on your phones. Don’t read emails.
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