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The protester's guide to smartphone security

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Re: The protester's guide to smartphone security

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Post by mlni »

notpushkin wrote: post #184
seb1204 wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you still buy phones with sim cards that don't require ID to get working? Not in Europe, UAE or Australia.

> Not in Europe In Estonia, you could buy a prepaid SIM card in a convenience shop a few years ago, without any sort of ID verification. Not sure if that’s still an option but I think it’s not a priority there. You can then use it all over the EU. And of course, buying a phone without a contract doesn’t require ID either.

Anonymous prepaid cards still available in any corner shop

Re: The protester's guide to smartphone security

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Post by MrDrMcCoy »

dartos wrote: post #188
Xen9 wrote: post #178

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Absolutely best idea is to make an encrypted PDA & play forensic scientist by recording everything. 1. Get a Google Pixel 9, 9 Pro, or 9 Pro XL smartphone (Cellebrite-proofn at time of writing). 2. Verify images & GOS. 3. Disable biometrics & wireless connections. 4. Memorize with Anki or your own head a new, NIST-compliant passphrase with ≥ 8+ words. 3. Get a cover for the smartphone. 4. Buy EMI tape and electricall…

How is it more secure than not having a phone?

By capturing evidence of what happens to you that cannot be tampered with.

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Post by nurumaik »

Animats wrote: post #189
scarface_74 wrote: post #172

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The rule is that you don’t use your burner phone at home, you use it when you are at the protest.

If you have two phones both turned on and they both move around similarly, they can be associated later.

Buy a burner phone with cash without taking your main phone and stash it somewhere. Then, before protest, take phone from stash and bring it with you

Re: The protester's guide to smartphone security

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Post by h0l0cube »

rainonmoon wrote: post #180
ants_everywhere wrote: post #122

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What a lot of people don't realize is that a lot of the protests are organized by people who do not care if you get hurt, arrested, or die. In the US, Russian operatives organize a lot of the protests that turn violent. They also organize the counter protests. In other countries, protests are often organized by foreign entities. The organizers will have good opsec, but everyone else is just (metaphorically) cannon fo…

These are some pretty obscene claims to make with absolutely no proof or citation.

While they were exaggerating by saying, "a lot of protests", certainly there have been some protests that have been organized by Russian agitators

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/17/russian-troll-...

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Post by tehjoker »

Muromec wrote: post #145
tehjoker wrote: post #83

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Reducing the ability for protestors to coordinate on the streets.

You dont coordinate on a protest with a phone and a network

I don't think it's a good idea either but people do text each other.

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Post by XorNot »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #134
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #103

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Going into a protest with illegal communication devices is almost a direct sabotage of the protest's intent. It gives law enforcement a legitimate reason to act, even if almost certainly ex post facto . And it paints the protest as wilfully illegal--you went in intending to break the law.

If you're protesting an oppressive regime then it's likely most privacy respecting methods are illegal.

If you're attending a protest with a phone, the cell tower ping will deanonymize you anyway.

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Post by jenadine »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #109
diggan wrote: post #3

If you're attending a large-scale protest, it's likely that the cell-towers (or stingrays) won't be able to handle everyone who is connected anyways, so worth planning to use apps that can chat over P2P WiFi or Bluetooth together with the rest of your friends. This also allows you to continue using Airplane Mode the entire time, while being able to communicate with people nearby. Alternatively, investing in walkie-ta…

Burner phones aren't safe. Security through obscurity worked with the 1990s cell network but not with today's vast logging/geolocation tagging.

Just break your phone in two part after your call and you'll be safe /s
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