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Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

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Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

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There's a good amount of irony in the results that AI have achieved, particularly if we reach AGI - they have improved individual worker efficiency by removing other workers from the system. Naming it Stargate implies a reckoning with the actual series itself - an accomplishment by humanity. Instead, what this pushes, is accomplishing the removal of humans from humanity. I like cool shiny tech, but I like useful tech…

> Instead, what this pushes, is accomplishing the removal of humans from humanity.

If you buy the marketing, yeah. But we aren't really seeing that in the tech sector. We haven't seen it succeed in the entertainment sector... it's still fighting for relevance in the medical and defense industries too. The number and quality of jobs that AI replaced is probably still quite low, and it will probably remain that way even after Stargate.

AI is DOA. LLMs have no successor, and the transformer architecture hit it's bathtub curve years ago.

> Jenson doesn't need another 1B gallons of water under his belt.

Jensen gets what he wants because he works with the industry. It's funny to see people object to CUDA and Nvidia's dominance but then refuse to suggest an alternative. An open standard managed by an independent and unbiased third-party? We tried that, OEMs abandoned it. NPU hardware tailor-made for specific inference tasks? Too slow, too niche, too often ends up as wasted silicon. Alternative manufacturer-specific SDKs integrated with one high-level library? ONNX tried that and died in obscurity.

Nvidia got where they are today by doing exactly what AMD and Apple couldn't figure out. People give Jensen their water because it's wasted in anyone else's hands.

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

#194
You have to keep in mind Microsoft is planning on spending almost 100B in datacenter capex this year and they're not alone. This is basically OpenAI matching the major cloud provider's spending.

This could also be (at least partly) a reaction to Microsoft threatening to pull OpenAI's cloud credits last year. OpenAI wants to maintain independence and with compute accounting for 25–50% of their expenses (currently) [2], this strategy may actually be prudent.

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/03/microsoft-expects-to-spend-8...

[2] https://youtu.be/7EH0VjM3dTk?si=hZe0Og6BjqLxbVav&t=1077

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

#195

Why are corporations announcing business deals from the White House? There doesn’t seem to be any public ownership/benefit here, aside from potential job creation. Which could be significant. But the American public doesn’t seem to gain anything from this new company.

For profit? I don't understand what's complicated about this.

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

#197

Why are corporations announcing business deals from the White House? There doesn’t seem to be any public ownership/benefit here, aside from potential job creation. Which could be significant. But the American public doesn’t seem to gain anything from this new company.

> Why are corporations announcing business deals from the White House?

You're answering your own question:

> potential job creation. Which could be significant

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

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Any clues to how they plan to invest $500 billion dollars? What infrastructure are they planning that will cost that much?

Reasonably speaking, there is no way they can know how they plan to invest $500 billion dollars. The current generation of large language models basically use all human text thats ever been created for the parameters... not really sure where you go after than using the same tech.

It seems to me you could generate a lot of fresh information from running every youtube video, every hour of TV on archive.org, every movie on the pirate bay -- do scene by scene image captioning + high quality whisper transcriptions (not whatever junk auto-transcription YouTube has applied), and use that to produce screenplays of everything anyone has ever seen.

I'm not sure why I've never heard of this being done, it would be a good use of GPUs in between training runs.

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

#199

"create hundreds of thousands of American jobs"... Given the current educational system in the US, this should be fun to watch. Oh yeah, Musk and his H-1B Visa thing. Now it's making sense.

How many jobs will it net if "successful" and the AI eliminates jobs?

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

#200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are currently witnessing the merging of government and corporations. It was bad before but the process is accelerating now.

there's some pretty good quotes about that by Mussolini. Things are getting bleak at an incredible pace.

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