Thoughts on a month with Devin • Hacker News Board

Re: Thoughts on a month with Devin

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Post by IanCal » Sat, Jan 18, 2025, 5:17 PM UTC

verdverm wrote: post #162

goosejuice wrote: post #155

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Because of the complaints? If so, yeah I get it. I'm there amongst them. It's kind of like Tesla FSD. There are often setbacks in releases and they definitely need to work on their communication with the community. That said, for the current price it's still worth any misgivings.

The price is one of the issues I have with this space more generally. I do not want to pay $20/m for a capped experience I want to pay $10/m to support development, and pay for my AI usage on my own, per request, by choosing my own model and provider If I was going to shell out money, it would be for Copilot, not Cursor. I prefer my AI to be a side dish, not the main course or core experience

You can use the free version and bring your own api keys if you want. You miss out on features that require cursors models.

Re: Thoughts on a month with Devin

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Post by goosejuice » Sat, Jan 18, 2025, 7:11 PM UTC

verdverm wrote: post #163

rob137 wrote: post #142

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Can you say more?

pricing model, downtime, model support, pricing model, trying to take over the experience rather than assist within my experience. This last one is big, because Cursor wants to "reimagine" how developers work. The problem is the AIs are so far from being competent, they need to be kept on the sidelines and sub'd in occasionally, not be the quarterback. Oh, did I mention pricing model?

It doesn't sound like you have a good understanding of cursor based on your comments. I'd suggest giving the trial a shot.

Re: Thoughts on a month with Devin

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Post by dimitri-vs » Sun, Jan 19, 2025, 9:37 PM UTC

hatefulmoron wrote: post #183

dimitri-vs wrote: post #180

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Is spending 4 years of your life on education that will likely only be 10-20% applicable to your job any less bizarre? It's just another hoop employers want to see you capable of jumping. If you ignore the syntax programming is just writing detailed instructions. Just because AI is able to translate English to code doesn't mean the 100s of decisions that need to be made go away. Someone still needs to write very deta…

> Just because AI is able to translate English to code doesn't mean the 100s of decisions that need to be made go away. Someone still needs to write very detailed instructions even if they are in English and it sure isn't going to be the people sitting in meetings all day. What makes you think it will be you? The machines seem increasingly capable of converting English into different English, and if we take it as a g…

I mean sure, once AI can write perfect code, infer specifications from vague and conflicting instructions and has full access to all siloed information developers will no longer be needed. And once we've perfected fusion energy all our energy issues will be solved.

But at that point AI writing code will be the least impressive thing it can do.

Re: Thoughts on a month with Devin

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Post by hatefulmoron » Tue, Jan 21, 2025, 2:11 AM UTC

dimitri-vs wrote: post #193

hatefulmoron wrote: post #183

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> Just because AI is able to translate English to code doesn't mean the 100s of decisions that need to be made go away. Someone still needs to write very detailed instructions even if they are in English and it sure isn't going to be the people sitting in meetings all day. What makes you think it will be you? The machines seem increasingly capable of converting English into different English, and if we take it as a g…

I mean sure, once AI can write perfect code, infer specifications from vague and conflicting instructions and has full access to all siloed information developers will no longer be needed. And once we've perfected fusion energy all our energy issues will be solved. But at that point AI writing code will be the least impressive thing it can do.

I don't really understand what you're implying here. It doesn't need to be perfect, it only needs to be as good as we are. I mean, you don't write perfect code. You don't perfectly infer requirements either. It takes time and conversation.