Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

Post by tucnak » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 12:46 AM UTC

threeseed wrote: post #160

xg15 wrote: post #21

Everything else aside, this is an absolutely fantastic development and I really hope the ceasefire holds and all hostages are released. I just fear this will cause western media and politicians to and declare the crisis to be over (after it had began on Oct. 7, of course absolutely out of the blue and without any context...) and go back to pretending everything is back to normal. Never mind that Gaza is still in ruin…

> ostensibly pressures Netanyahu into accepting the ceasefire There is no evidence of this. Every single time Trump has blustered about doing something e.g. turning Canada into a 51st, buying Greenland the parties have been concerned but not particularly worried. Because he doesn't follow through. So the idea that we should credit Trump for his words and ignore the months of diplomacy and pressure from not just the U…

Post by transformi » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 12:46 AM UTC

x3ro wrote: post #180

transformi wrote: post #169

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“Throwing stones kills” said the heavily armed settler laughing, leveling a rifle at my chest. Arabs never lived here. You are just a figment of history’s imagination, and must be expunged. The IDF soldiers standing around laughed as he pulled the trigger.

Post by g19205 » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 12:47 AM UTC

threeseed wrote: post #160

xg15 wrote: post #21

Everything else aside, this is an absolutely fantastic development and I really hope the ceasefire holds and all hostages are released. I just fear this will cause western media and politicians to and declare the crisis to be over (after it had began on Oct. 7, of course absolutely out of the blue and without any context...) and go back to pretending everything is back to normal. Never mind that Gaza is still in ruin…

> ostensibly pressures Netanyahu into accepting the ceasefire There is no evidence of this. Every single time Trump has blustered about doing something e.g. turning Canada into a 51st, buying Greenland the parties have been concerned but not particularly worried. Because he doesn't follow through. So the idea that we should credit Trump for his words and ignore the months of diplomacy and pressure from not just the U…

Post by HDThoreaun » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 12:47 AM UTC

threeseed wrote: post #168

typon wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Historical revisionism is supposed to happen when enough time has passed. This ceasefire is directly due to Trump's pressure on Netanyahu. Trump's envoy went to Doha and made this happen: https://www.axios.com/2025/01/11/trumps-israel-gaza-deal-jan... This is the actual reality

> This is the actual reality No. That is your opinion. Biden and Middle East administrations had similar meetings for over a year now. Unless we have a quote directly from the Netanyahu administration it's all just conjecture.

Post by culi » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 12:50 AM UTC

transformi wrote: post #194

x3ro wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Throwing stones kills” said the heavily armed settler laughing, leveling a rifle at my chest. Arabs never lived here. You are just a figment of history’s imagination, and must be expunged. The IDF soldiers standing around laughed as he pulled the trigger.

Almost on weekly basis there are terror attack of west-bank peaceful that are coordinate on civilians, last week 3 older women were murdered on daylight as "innocent west-bank 'peace makers'"... The different is that one side defend against such evil and brutal attacks, and the other side is cinicly "allow" to conduct them. For a tech-person I hope you have more critical thinking ability to spot different.