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I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by scarface_74 »

dartos wrote: post #97
scarface_74 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google still has close to 90% market share with DDG being a little more than a half percent. https://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share/all/wo... Edit:Wrong year - that was 2020 this is 2024 https://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share/all/wo...

Change is sometimes slow. Let’s see how Google does as a century old company. In the grand scheme of things, they’re still a fairly young giant.

I didn’t realize I was looking at the 2020 stats. But the 2024 stats are the same

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #129
ustad wrote: post #23

Currently the main attack facing Firefox is coming from advertising companies such as YouTube. It’s crazy to think that some software engineers might actually intentionally degrade user experience on non-Google browsers or for people using adblockers. The mentality here is pretty disturbing: it’s almost like punishing users for making the choice to browse the web without ads, or without the surveillance mechanisms th…

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Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by bachmeier »

scarface_74 wrote: post #89
vanous wrote: post #72

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A while back nobody would believe that Google's search dominance could be disturbed... and now many have either switched away or stopped using search altogether. It takes me two clicks to set a search to DDG, Kagi or other and Google has lost this customer (often a family) forever. So let them be arrogant and loose their YouTube customers over time too.

Google still has close to 90% market share with DDG being a little more than a half percent. https://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share/all/wo... Edit:Wrong year - that was 2020 this is 2024 https://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share/all/wo...

Defining the market correctly is always an important first step. Those numbers don't include LLMs.

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by prmoustache »

conradfr wrote: post #134
ethbr1 wrote: post #49

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What doesn't work with YouTube on Firefox? Asked as on mobile I run as few apps as possible, so use the web version. Haven't seen any issues.

Not totally related but on Firefox mobile you can't have a Youtube video playing while switching to another app anymore.

Aren't every firefox user using newpipe or other yt frontends on mobile?

I mean if you care enough to not use the default mobile browser, surely you found out about newpipe and the myriad of other youtube frontends.

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by ethbr1 »

ustad wrote: post #67
ethbr1 wrote: post #49

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What doesn't work with YouTube on Firefox? Asked as on mobile I run as few apps as possible, so use the web version. Haven't seen any issues.

A lot of the reported issues with YouTube on Firefox (especially when paired with adblockers) involve things like increased page load times, UI elements not functioning as smoothly, or even video playback glitches. Some of this is due to JavaScript that’s intentionally designed to slow things down if you’re blocking ads or using a non-Google browser, as we’ve been discussing.

I haven't seen any bugs on Firefox mobile + uBlock Origin + Android + Pixel 4a 5g (I hate upgrading phones, sue me).

The only glitch I reliably get is watching videos at 1.5x sometimes freezes video (but audio still plays). Expect that's more hardware and memory pressure related tho.

Also, I wasn't aware YouTube mobile has ads? I think uBlock might be eating them. Although possibly whatever is lagging others experiences too...

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Post by josephd79 »

Sanctor wrote: post #110

I really want to switch to Firefox but cannot because it doesn't sync bookmark favicons. My bookmarks bar is filled with bookmarks without names that I can recognize by the icons. I refuse to re-visit every bookmark when I login from a new PC, which is often. This has been requested for 17 years: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428378 Every other browser sync solution has this feature. Firefox insists on…

You don't name your bookmarks?

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by prmoustache »

magicmicah85 wrote: post #93
KaiserPro wrote: post #44

I have been using mozilla for _years_ it got shit, then better, then shit, and now its close enough. The thing I _Love_ is container tabs. I can isolate empires by using container tabs to sandbox cookies and other web state. This means that ebay doesn't change my adverts to the last thing I searched on every site, and autoplay embedded youtube doesn't fuck up my video recommendations. It means I can hide my work gmai…

I'd been using Firefox for my work device for years but I only discovered containers and how awesome they are. My company was acquired and we still use microsoft accounts for different purposes. Jira works with this account, but sharepoint works with that account. Can't be logged in with the same azure account at the same time, but with containers, I can. It's great.

It is really useful to log on different aws account at the same time too.

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Post by ryandvm »

delecti wrote: post #102
segasaturn wrote: post #47

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The irony that Google, who made their bones on the "open web", is now attacking open web standards and trying to turn the internet into their own walled garden that they control every aspect of I hope is not lost on the people here.

I have trouble seeing that as irony in a world where "embrace, extend, extinguish" exists.

Agreed. It would be ironic if it wasn't literally the exact same arc that every single company in this industry goes through.

* Scrappy upstart catches the industry off guard * Wild success and growth * Becomes bloated, unable to innovate, and addicted to its cash cow * Begins turning the screws on its users to appease shareholders

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by dismalaf »

basilgohar wrote: post #179
dismalaf wrote: post #149

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Using an ad blocker ( and not paying for a subscription in the case of YouTube) isn't the "user making their own choices", it's stealing content. If a creator puts up ads or a paywall, it's because they want to be compensated. You should either respect their wish or simply not view their content.

I understand this perspective, but I disagree with it. If someone wants to use a public space (i.e., the Internet), then they have accept that technological solutions to annoyances are also part of that. Block it with a subscription if you don't accept this reality. But getting the benefits of a free, global audience doesn't entitle the artist to any means of revenue they choose, including what annoys and harms peopl…

> But getting the benefits of a free, global audience

The benefit of the audience is literally the ad views (or Premium views).

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