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Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by ActionHank »

blixt wrote: post #156

Pretty interesting watching their tech explainers on YouTube about the changes in their AI solutions. Apparently they switched from CNNs to transformers for upscaling (with ray tracing support) if I understood correctly though for frame generation makes even more sense to me. 32 GB VRAM on the highest end GPU seems almost small after running LLMs with 128 GB RAM on the M3 Max, but the speed will most likely more than…

They are intentionally keeping the VRAM small on these cards to force people to buy their larger, more expensive offerings.

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Post by ks2048 »

This is maybe a dumb question, but why is it so hard to buy Nvidia GPUs?

I can understand lack of supply, but why can't I go on nvidia.com and buy something the same way I go on apple.com and buy hardware?

I'm looking for GPUs and navigating all these different resellers with wildly different prices and confusing names (on top of the already confusing set of available cards).

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Post by lemoncookiechip »

stego-tech wrote: post #19
malnourish wrote: post #6

I will be astonished if I'll be able to get a 5090 due to availability. The 5080's comparative lack of memory is a buzzkill -- 16 GB seems like it's going to be a limiting factor for 4k gaming. Does anyone know what these might cost in the US after the rumored tariffs?

Honestly, with how fast memory is being consumed nowadays and the increased focus on frame generation/interpolation vs “full frames”, I’ll keep my 3090 a little longer instead of upgrading to a 5080 or 5090. It’s not the fastest, but it’s a solid card even in 2025 for 1440p RT gaming on a VRR display, and the memory lets me tinker with LLMs without breaking a sweat. If DLSS4 and “MOAR POWAH” are the only things on of…

DLSS4 is coming to other RTX cards, eventually. https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/dlss4-multi-frame-...

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Post by Eloso »

martiuk wrote: post #146
Refusing23 wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems kinda silly to make an 8K video card when ... nobody on the planet has an 8K screen

> Seems kinda silly to make a 4K video card when ... nobody on the planet has a 4K screen. Someone else probably said that years ago when everyone was rocking 1080/1440p screens.

Gaming isn't the only use-case, but Steam hardware survey says ~4% of users are using 4k screens. So the market is still small.

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Post by blitzar »

FuriouslyAdrift wrote: post #183
blitzar wrote: post #133

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Intel hate making money even more than AMD.

Intel's Arc B580 budget card is selling like hotcakes... https://www.pcworld.com/article/2553897/intel-arc-b580-revie...

They fired the CEO for daring to make a product such as this. The 25mil they paid to get rid of him might even wipe out their profits on this product.

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Post by datadrivenangel »

ks2048 wrote: post #192

This is maybe a dumb question, but why is it so hard to buy Nvidia GPUs? I can understand lack of supply, but why can't I go on nvidia.com and buy something the same way I go on apple.com and buy hardware? I'm looking for GPUs and navigating all these different resellers with wildly different prices and confusing names (on top of the already confusing set of available cards).

Nvidia uses resellers as distributors. Helps build out a locked in ecosystem.

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Post by jampekka »

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #144
codespin wrote: post #20

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At what point do we stop calling them graphics cards?

How long until a "PC" isn't CPU + GPU but just a GPU? I know CPUs are good for some things that GPUs aren't and vice versa but... it really kind of makes you wonder. Press the power button, boot the GPU? Surely a terrible idea, and I know system-on-a-chip makes this more confusing/complicated (like Apple Silicon, etc.)

Probably never if the GPU architecture resembles anything like they currently are.

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Post by ks2048 »

datadrivenangel wrote: post #196
ks2048 wrote: post #192

This is maybe a dumb question, but why is it so hard to buy Nvidia GPUs? I can understand lack of supply, but why can't I go on nvidia.com and buy something the same way I go on apple.com and buy hardware? I'm looking for GPUs and navigating all these different resellers with wildly different prices and confusing names (on top of the already confusing set of available cards).

Nvidia uses resellers as distributors. Helps build out a locked in ecosystem.

How does that help "build out a locked in ecosystem"? Again, comparing to Apple: they have a very locked-in ecosystem.

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Post by bee_rider »

mastax wrote: post #178
kllrnohj wrote: post #150

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> There are plenty of AAA games released last years that you can do 4K at 60fps with a RTX 3090 for example. Not when you turn on ray tracing. Also 60fps is pretty low, certainly isn't "high fps" anyway

> Also 60fps is pretty low, certainly isn't "high fps" anyway I’m sure some will disagree with this but most PC gamers I talk to want to be at 90FPS minimum. I’d assume if you’re spending $1600+ on a GPU you’re pretty particular about your experience.

I’m so glad I grew up in the n64/xbox era. You save so much money if you are happy at 30fps. And the games look really nice.
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