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Why Linux is not ready for the desktop, the final edition

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Re: Why Linux is not ready for the desktop, the final edition

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> this hobbyist toy. Linux is fundamentally not ready for anyone who has needs more than a Chromebook Wow, piss right off you to you, too. Linux is ready for me, and has been for decades. By your logic, I need nothing but a Chromebook. Linux is imperfect, like you, but it's never been an ass.

I’ve used Linux since 2011; I know all about it; and I would recommend it to nobody because the community can hear no criticism, bear no criticism, and self-rationalizes everything. Sometimes it takes a bold stance to make a point against one of the most toxic, delusional, and self-righteous communities online. For my part, I’m back on Windows and Mac. Screw the community’s arrogance more than the project. The commun…

> …the community can hear no criticism, bear no criticism, and self-rationalizes everything. Sometimes it takes a bold stance to make a point against one of the most toxic, delusional, and self-righteous communities online.

if one’s “criticism” is snarky or just plain needlessly rude, one shouldn’t be surprised when they receive the same in return, this is extremely basic human behavior. very very basic.

we all learn this in like elementary school, if you’re rude, people will treat you like a rude person. it’s not shocking and it’s not unexpected. its extremely basic social shit learned by even small children.

Re: Why Linux is not ready for the desktop, the final edition

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The other question is why should any normal person want to run Linux as their primary OS except for philosophical reasons? I was forced to use Windows for a year as a developer. I threw WSL2 on it and it was fine . I installed Docker desktop for Windows and it worked fine for Linux. But especially on the Mac, while I have to download updated commands, it is genuinely certified UNIX. On both Macs and Windows I also ge…

Philosophy aside, many users actually do not prefer to have ads and data tracking built-in to the devices they use.

What “ads” are built into Macs and what “data tracking” can you not turn off?

Re: Why Linux is not ready for the desktop, the final edition

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- "The vast majority of applications exist only for Windows, and speaking of games, Linux hasn't seen any AAA titles for many years now," The vast majority of AAA titles run seamlessly on Linux. Per protondb[0], ≥80% of the top 10, top 100, and top 1000 are rated "platinum" or "gold" for Linux functioning (by users). [0] https://www.protondb.com/

I mean it's maybe "seamless" if you use a system provided by the top DRM platform. Using wine directly it's unfortunately not very seamless. I don't really play games much but my recent experience hasn't been great. Last week I tried to run Witcher 3 using wine and it took a while to debug. The installer runs immediately and seemlessly - but then it got messy It involved installing `winetricks` which seems to be some…

You seem to be kinda confused. ProtonDB does not reflect how well Wine runs a program, it reflects how well Proton runs it. If you try to create a Wine environment with the same featureset and patches that Proton has by default, you will waste a lot of time. A lot of things (eg. Powershell, d3d/DXVK, dotnet, C++ redistributables, etc.) come pre-packaged with Proton and therefore require no extra configuration to run a compatible game.

What you want is to use a program like Lutris or Bottles to manage your runtime for you, if you're not installing it through Steam. I don't know who put you up to installing Wild Hunt on a vanilla Wine prefix but they sound like someone with a good sense of humor.

Re: Why Linux is not ready for the desktop, the final edition

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Philosophy aside, many users actually do not prefer to have ads and data tracking built-in to the devices they use.

What “ads” are built into Macs and what “data tracking” can you not turn off?

> What “ads” are built into Macs

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252087642

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252412228

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7655683

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252623445

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251628859

> what “data tracking” can you not turn off?

https://eclecticlight.co/2021/08/12/is-apple-keeping-its-pro...

Re: Why Linux is not ready for the desktop, the final edition

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For me, 2024 was the year I finally got completely rid of Windows and switched fully to Ubuntu on all computers. I had kept Windows for playing Steam games, but I realized Proton will play them just fine on Linux when you enable it in the Steam compatibility settings.

It feels really good to get rid of WSL, Docker in VM and other hacks that kind of make Windows work for development, but always cause various issues. Developing natively on Linux just lets you forget all those hacks.

One thing I also did was switch from NVIDIA RTX to Radeon RX. I haven't had to worry about GPU drivers and settings and heat issues in Linux after that.

Re: Why Linux is not ready for the desktop, the final edition

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> Regressions are introduced all the time because Linux developers spend very little to no time checking that their code changes don't cause regressions or breakages outside of the problems they're trying to fix or features they're implementing. Wow. Such sweeping generalizations make me not want to pay attention to anything this article has to say. But let's entertain the possibility that parts of that statement are…

You spent a whole lot of words to effectively say that you agree with the poster.

Your entire post begins with a weak "no that's not true", and then the entre rest of the post is explaining why it is true and will never change.

Re: Why Linux is not ready for the desktop, the final edition

#198

Here's how you have a good experience: Use one of the following: - Fedora - Fedora Silverblue - Ubuntu - openSuse Aeon or Micro Leap Next, don't modify anything. Use the DE it comes with, never open the terminal, treat it like it's MacOS or Windows and you're your grandma. Then you'll have a good, solid desktop. The problem people have is using hobbyist distros like Mint, some flavour of Arch that's just a buggier Ar…

Mint being a "hobbyist" distro that provides a worse experience for regular users than Ubuntu is definitely a bespoke take. Nothing against my upstream as a Mint user, but the entire point of this distro is to get the "life's too short to configure stuff" things out of the way. I do do my fair share of "hobbyist" Linux config stuff, but it's stuff I could do on any distro. > Or they modify shit because they saw it on…

Mint is Ubuntu + extra bugs and a less modern experience.

Re: Why Linux is not ready for the desktop, the final edition

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post #158

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The other question is why should any normal person want to run Linux as their primary OS except for philosophical reasons? it's free. it's stable. it's easier to use. it doesn't have adds. it uses less resources. it runs on older hardware. it doesn't contain spyware. it doesn't violate my privacy. it includes more powerful features. it offers more alternatives for the GUI. i can trust it because the kernel has been a…

I still have to buy the computer so an OS being “free” is inconsequential and what does “using less resources” get me? Does your computer run for 16 hours+ on one charge? Does it run fast, quiet and cool like my MacBook Air? By the way you can buy a brand new M1 MacBook Air from Walmart for $699. These are still being manufactured by Apple and distributed via third parties. As far as “trusting it” because it has been…

$699, which can buy you approximately 7 used laptops that are worthwhile daily drivers when set up with Linux. You sound like a shill.
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