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Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Post by prometheon1 »

yurylifshits wrote: post #163
simonw wrote: post #131

I got access to the preview, here's what it gave me for "A pelican riding a bicycle along a coastal path overlooking a harbor" - this video has all four versions shown: https://static.simonwillison.net/static/2024/pelicans-on-bic... Of the four two were a pelican riding a bicycle. One was a pelican just running along the road, one was a pelican perched on a stationary bicycle, and one had the pelican wearing a weird…

There's another important contender in the space: Hunyuan model from Tencent My company (Nim) is hosting Hunyuan model, so here's a quick test (first attempt) at "pelican riding a bycicle" via Hunyuan on Nim: https://nim.video/explore/OGs4EM3MIpW8 I think it's as good, if not better than Sora / Veo

Is it still better if you copy his whole prompt instead of half of it?

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Post by chefandy »

Jeff_Brown wrote: post #33
paxys wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone has access to YouTube. It’s safe to assume that Sora was trained on it as well.

All you can eat? Surely they charge a lot for that, at least. And how would you even find all the videos?

Nobody in this space gives a fuck about anyone or anything further upstream than the file sitting in their ingestion queue. If they can see it, they 'own' it.

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Post by chefandy »

gamesbrainiac wrote: post #56

This might be a dumb question to ask, but what exactly is this useful for? B-Roll for YouTube videos? I'm not sure why so much effort is being put into something like this when the applications are so limited.

It's got a lot of potential as a way for google to get paid for other people's skills and hard work instead of the people that made all of that "data".

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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klabb3 wrote: post #50

It’s telling that safety and responsibility gets so much fluff words, technical details are fairly extensive, but no mention of the training data? It’s clearly relevant for both performance and ethical discussions. Maybe it’s just me who couldn’t find it, (the website barely works at all on FF iOS)..

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Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Post by chefandy »

alsodumb wrote: post #9

My theory as to why all the bigtech companies are investing so much money in video generation models is simple: they are trying to eliminate the threat of influencers/content creators to their ad revenue. Think about it, almost everyone I know rarely clicks on ads or buys from ads anymore. On the other hand, a lot of people including myself look into buying something advertised implicitly or explicitly by content cre…

Nah. They're trying to eliminate the threat of content creators, artists, designers, animators, etc getting paid for their art and hard won skill instead of google.

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Post by yurylifshits »

dr_kiszonka wrote: post #189
yurylifshits wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's another important contender in the space: Hunyuan model from Tencent My company (Nim) is hosting Hunyuan model, so here's a quick test (first attempt) at "pelican riding a bycicle" via Hunyuan on Nim: https://nim.video/explore/OGs4EM3MIpW8 I think it's as good, if not better than Sora / Veo

Reddit says it is much better than Sora. Are you hosting the full version of Nunyuan? (Your video looks great.)

Our limited tests show that yes, Hunyuan is comparable or better than Sora on most prompts. Very promising model

Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Post by golol »

BriggyDwiggs42 wrote: post #129
dheera wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, I have trained myself on Youtube. Why can't a silicon being train itself on Youtube as well?

When a company trains an AI model on something, and then that company sells access to the ai model, the company, not the ai model, is the being violating copyright. If Jimmy makes an android in his garage and gives it free will, then it trains itself on youtube, i doubt anyone would have an issue.

If OpenAI training on youtube videos violates copyright then so does Google training on them.

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fernly wrote: post #152

Superficially impressive but what is the actual use case of the present state of the art? It makes 10-second demos, fine. But can a producer get a second shot of the same scene and the same characters, with visual continuity? Or a third, etc? In other words, can it be used to create a coherent movie --even a 60-second commercial -- with multiple shots having continuity of faces, backgrounds, and lighting? This quote…

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Re: Veo 2: Our video generation model

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Post by gloflo »

fernly wrote: post #152

Superficially impressive but what is the actual use case of the present state of the art? It makes 10-second demos, fine. But can a producer get a second shot of the same scene and the same characters, with visual continuity? Or a third, etc? In other words, can it be used to create a coherent movie --even a 60-second commercial -- with multiple shots having continuity of faces, backgrounds, and lighting? This quote…

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