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Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by MBCook »

Projectiboga wrote: post #95

What is the Horsepower equivalent of the Tesla power trains? Is this just because they are the new luxury sportscar and many of these drivers haven't been trough major car repairs, ever? The zero to sixty of even a basic Tesla is very quick and even with strong breaking other physical limits with turning and maneuvering can arise if some one is zooming around weaving in traffic. These stats need to be studied by age…

It’s not just the horsepower, a big thing is the torque. There is so much and it’s available basically from zero. So even if you can compare it to a combustion engine with the same amount of horsepower it may take off the line a lot faster.

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by legitster »

akira2501 wrote: post #48
legitster wrote: post #3

In a big picture, this makes sense. You can load the cars with safety features, but it doesn't change the fact that these cars are very heavy, very fast, and loaded with features that reward distracted driving. In the US at least, the top killer of drivers are trees on the side of the road.

> and loaded with features "Ludicrous mode." > the top killer of drivers are trees on the side of the road. It's actually alcohol and drugs. Which is the reason those drivers find themselves in the trees.

If you have driven around rural roads in the US, you realize it does not take alcohol to leave the road. A moment of distraction is all it takes to get into a ditch.

https://highways.dot.gov/safety/RwD

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by ikiris »

notyourwork wrote: post #171
bongodongobob wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Try not to dismiss my comment for what it is. I'm not taking a stance on political affiliation or preference. I'm trying to highlight a behavior that is the result of elections of recent past. I'm not excited about another 4 years where communication diminishes to snarky comments that point finger at the side they oppose. It makes me want to just go outside and smell the fresh air. I come to HN for substantial conver…

Your presumption that it was snarky banter and not a deductive prediction based on publicly documented behavior is itself a political stance and affiliation.

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by XenophileJKO »

jdietrich wrote: post #161
bunderbunder wrote: post #50

I'd love to see some sort of multiple regression or ANOVA on this, instead of singling out a single variable. Is car brand really the best independent predictor? Or is it specific design decisions you tend to see in certain brands? (Like, say, maximizing driver distraction by consolidating a bunch of essential controls and information displays into a touchscreen display that's really difficult to operate when it's su…

The Tesla Model Y is a two ton SUV with the performance of a Porsche 911. The base RWD model is fast and the Performance model is stupidly fast. I don't think anyone would be particularly surprised to learn that Porsche drivers get into a lot of fatal accidents.

Looking at the results.. it does make you wonder if there is something other underlying problem with the model Y vs the Model X or model 3.

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by aziaziazi »

bunderbunder wrote: post #50

I'd love to see some sort of multiple regression or ANOVA on this, instead of singling out a single variable. Is car brand really the best independent predictor? Or is it specific design decisions you tend to see in certain brands? (Like, say, maximizing driver distraction by consolidating a bunch of essential controls and information displays into a touchscreen display that's really difficult to operate when it's su…

> essential controls

Can’t you drive a Tesla without it? I expect the screen was for radio, gps, AC…

I agree those are distracting through.

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by CarVac »

technothrasher wrote: post #187
jdietrich wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Tesla Model Y is a two ton SUV with the performance of a Porsche 911. The base RWD model is fast and the Performance model is stupidly fast. I don't think anyone would be particularly surprised to learn that Porsche drivers get into a lot of fatal accidents.

The top most model of the Model Y is as fast in a straight line as the lowest base model 911, and the handling isn't even close to the same. Saying the Model Y has the performance of the 911 is not really an accurate statement.

The straight-line performance is exactly what makes it dangerous.

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by cglace »

zer8k wrote: post #155
notyourwork wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I the only one that is not excited about the next four years being constant banter of this nature? I loathe it. Nothing personal against your comment but the new administration hasn't even gone into office and I cannot get away from this.

These people have been inundated with the drivel of a billion dollar propaganda machine run by the most expensive campaign in history. It's gonna take a while before they're back to normal again. I've heard so many "office of government efficiency" jokes in the last week I am tired of it too. But, in their defense if all you hear is how this administration is going to be the fourth reich (lol), destroy the country (l…

What if we use Trump's actual words?

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by MBCook »

bilsbie wrote: post #136

I’m really confused. A major reason I bought one was because I heard they were so safe.

If you read the end of the article they basically say that Teslas are safe.

It really appears to be an issue of average Tesla driver behavior compared to overall average driver behavior.

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by noncoml »

notyourwork wrote: post #117
Koala_ice wrote: post #14

I thoroughyl expect the Deparment of Government Efficiency to recommend U.S. Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) be shut down to save previous taxpayer dollars.

Am I the only one that is not excited about the next four years being constant banter of this nature? I loathe it. Nothing personal against your comment but the new administration hasn't even gone into office and I cannot get away from this.

Can you mention one thing that Trump or Musk ever did out of altruism?

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by MBCook »

bastloing wrote: post #110

If you read the article it implies driver fault not car fault. Tesla receiving the highest ever crash safety ratings echos that.

The huge difference between their cars seems to indicate that too. The Y is way above their brand average, for example.
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