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Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by submeta »

freetonik wrote: post #149
wintermutestwin wrote: post #136

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Apple Music = few users?? From what I could tell when choosing AM over Spotify, the latter has a lot of playlists for discovery and I would never use my streaming service for discovery as it encourages the service to promote music it is paid to promote. Of course AM is annoying too because 3 out of 5 navigation icons along the bottom of the UI are for discovery. But AM has Siri integration, which works some of the ti…

Apple Music has been utterly awful on desktop for years, with virtually zero positive progress. I made this angry video [1] 4 years ago, and have tried using Apple Music multiple times since then, and it never failed to disappoint. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE8ZikfrpFU

You are spot on. Apple does one thing very good: MacOS + Macs. But I don’t like Apple software. Too limited, too crippled, too unpredictable. And they don’t listen to users, you cannot reach out to someone and hope your feedback will change something.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by senpos »

rumori wrote: post #169
wintermutestwin wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple Music = few users?? From what I could tell when choosing AM over Spotify, the latter has a lot of playlists for discovery and I would never use my streaming service for discovery as it encourages the service to promote music it is paid to promote. Of course AM is annoying too because 3 out of 5 navigation icons along the bottom of the UI are for discovery. But AM has Siri integration, which works some of the ti…

I used to use Apple Music but when my Credit Card expired I missed two months payment and Apple happily deleted all of my playlists and library. I don’t think they realise how bad this is, but I will never use it or subscribe ever again.

I had to pause my subscription for a few months for personal reasons and my collection is gone too.

This is crazy. Not sure how they expect anyone to keep using their service with such attitude.

Perhaps it is a lock-in strategy: don’t leave or you lose months or even years of your music habits.

At the same time, both Spotify and YouTube Music keep all the data to this day.

One might argue that they free plans, so they have to keep it. And I would say “I don’t care”. If I can’t rely on your service to keep a list of songs - I am not using it.

Damn, they could utilize my iCloud account. Or allow me to export a text file with that data, so I could import it back later. But no. No money - you are screwed.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by piva00 »

BoredPositron wrote: post #188
rumori wrote: post #169

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I used to use Apple Music but when my Credit Card expired I missed two months payment and Apple happily deleted all of my playlists and library. I don’t think they realise how bad this is, but I will never use it or subscribe ever again.

You missed two months of payment and you are angry that a company closed the account? Boy do I have to tell you a story about what you can lose by not paying your AWS bill for two months… I am curious how you handle customers that do not pay and continue to not pay instead of just ending their subscription.

In many places I worked we would keep a user's history on the app for a long while in case they decided to resubscribe. It doesn't cost much to have a 6-12 months leeway before complete deletion.

Erasing a music app data after just a couple of months is idiotic, even more for a company with such deep pockets like Apple.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by oarsinsync »

BoredPositron wrote: post #188
rumori wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to use Apple Music but when my Credit Card expired I missed two months payment and Apple happily deleted all of my playlists and library. I don’t think they realise how bad this is, but I will never use it or subscribe ever again.

You missed two months of payment and you are angry that a company closed the account? Boy do I have to tell you a story about what you can lose by not paying your AWS bill for two months… I am curious how you handle customers that do not pay and continue to not pay instead of just ending their subscription.

I stopped paying for Spotify for 3 years, didn’t login for 2 of those years, came back and my playlists were all still there.

My annual Apple Music subscription lapsed for one day, and my entire library was gone the next day when I resubscribed for another year.

Apple are allowed to make whatever customer hostile choices they want. As a former Apple Music customer, I’m not making that mistake again.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by senpos »

BoredPositron wrote: post #188
rumori wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to use Apple Music but when my Credit Card expired I missed two months payment and Apple happily deleted all of my playlists and library. I don’t think they realise how bad this is, but I will never use it or subscribe ever again.

You missed two months of payment and you are angry that a company closed the account? Boy do I have to tell you a story about what you can lose by not paying your AWS bill for two months… I am curious how you handle customers that do not pay and continue to not pay instead of just ending their subscription.

What do you lose if you don’t pay to AWS for two months?

My account is still there. I can still use it. I am pretty sure it has some historic data there as well. Probably my old lambdas are still laying around.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by hatsix »

devmunchies wrote: post #121
Syonyk wrote: post #91

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It's not. Artists will often enough remove old albums so you can no longer play them. Buy it, download as FLAC, put in your preferred local infrastructure to play. Plex/Plexamp works well, as does local file storage and a good command line music client if you're less GUI-friendly or don't have the resources for running them.

Wait, all the music I bought on bandcamp can disappear if the artist removes it from their public inventory?

No, making an album private does not disappear the music from people who have purchased it.

However, Bandcamp does abide by the laws that require them to stop distributing music at the rights holders' request.

No music service, or any service, for that matter, will guarantee access to files without regard to laws. Some will try harder, some have tried harder and been beaten down.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by vbezhenar »

BoredPositron wrote: post #188
rumori wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to use Apple Music but when my Credit Card expired I missed two months payment and Apple happily deleted all of my playlists and library. I don’t think they realise how bad this is, but I will never use it or subscribe ever again.

You missed two months of payment and you are angry that a company closed the account? Boy do I have to tell you a story about what you can lose by not paying your AWS bill for two months… I am curious how you handle customers that do not pay and continue to not pay instead of just ending their subscription.

AWS has to pay a relatively big money for keeping user data. It is understandable why they would want to delete it.

Playlists are basically zero cost to store. You would spend more $ on delete processing than keeping them around for eternity. So it's just not well thought use-case, implemented without attempt to view the whole picture.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by pazimzadeh »

cheema33 wrote: post #166
pazimzadeh wrote: post #76

The youtube music matching didn't work for the first two songs I tried: Two Words by Kanye West: https://open.spotify.com/track/62wtttQzoIA9HnNmGVd9Yq?si=b1b... Went to Two Words by Milabel Ranque: https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=Y64cFG9dfYo Never Let Me Down by Kanye West: https://open.spotify.com/track/34j4OxJxKznBs88cjSL2j9?si=7ec... Went to Never Let me Down by Depeche Mode: https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=sn…

Kanye West? Maybe the misdirection is a feature, not a bug.

i miss the old kanye

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by jeltz »

SpotifyClosed wrote: post #185
bryanrasmussen wrote: post #158

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Spotify doesn't require you to create an account to hear a song from what I recall, so why wouldn't someone send you a link? That's what the web is for. That said once you have heard it on Spotify, yeah you might want it on your service provider of choice so as to add it to whatever equivalent of playlists there are.

The previous comment was already absurdly america-centric. But with this response, the cake is taken. I have never been sent a spotify link, nor do people really over here, because you need an account.

Isn't your comment also America centric? Spotify is huge in more countries than the US.
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