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Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by seanp2k2 »

m463 wrote: post #70
sashank_1509 wrote: post #40

The weird thing I’ve seen is in almost all the online forums I visit, like Reddit, YouTube comment sections, parts of twitter, hacker news, the cybertruck is universally panned. Yet when I drove a cybertruck, the number of onlookers who approached me inquiring about the car with excitement is unmatched with even a Lamborghini that I once rented. Shows how much of a bubble the internet alone is. MKBHD got the ratio’s…

I think the truck is like dating an exciting but shallow person who doesn't care about you. The truck is extremely fast, with excellent steering, suspension and lots of other groundbreaking technology. But it is basically user-hostile. No dashboard, no stalks for turn signals or gear selection, and everything is on the central touchscreen. And that is super cluttered and impossible to do important things without look…

Oooooh, is this why I see so many Teslas not using their turn signals? How did that even get regulatory approval (though I guess not in the EU)?

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by moooo99 »

wg0 wrote: post #172
rogerrogerr wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn’t even close to true, fwiw. You can easily find stats on EV batteries. There are early Teslas out there with 200k+ miles after 10+ years with minimal degradation.

Those are outliers. It's like saying there are people who live upto 106 years easily. These batteries are subject to extreme temperatures routinely including fast charge/discharge cycles and we simply can't escape the physics with our wishful thinking alone.

We can’t escape physics, but we can address physics. Car batteries are usually temperature controlled, they are cooled when fast charging etc.

Especially with modern battery tech, you should easily get 200,000km out of the battery before it drops to below 80% of its original capacity

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by seanp2k2 »

mikestew wrote: post #59
sashank_1509 wrote: post #40

The weird thing I’ve seen is in almost all the online forums I visit, like Reddit, YouTube comment sections, parts of twitter, hacker news, the cybertruck is universally panned. Yet when I drove a cybertruck, the number of onlookers who approached me inquiring about the car with excitement is unmatched with even a Lamborghini that I once rented. Shows how much of a bubble the internet alone is. MKBHD got the ratio’s…

People used to do the same thing to me after we bought one of the first Nissan Leafs. So much that a friend expressed displeasure with going with me to pick up food because he knew we would very likely be delayed by someone asking about the car. So I don’t think it’s much of a measuring stick.

PT Cruiser and New Beetle were also incredible attention-getters when new and eventual unexciting flops. The new VW ID Buzz van will be the same due to the subpar mileage. What good is a road trip car that you must stop to charge every 200 miles?

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by seanp2k2 »

NetToolKit wrote: post #168
mikestew wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People used to do the same thing to me after we bought one of the first Nissan Leafs. So much that a friend expressed displeasure with going with me to pick up food because he knew we would very likely be delayed by someone asking about the car. So I don’t think it’s much of a measuring stick.

But the LEAF is a great car :)

They’re especially great at depreciating: https://insideevs.com/news/715992/save-used-evs-price-differ...

Second only to the MB EQS. Down almost half in 12 months. This is why EVs are lease-only vehicles right now IMO.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by moooo99 »

GenerWork wrote: post #78
standardUser wrote: post #68

Here's the thing about the Cybertruck, if you give it a decent paint job it actually looks kind of amazing... https://pristineautospa.com/the-benefits-and-advantages-of-c... It's the unfinished metal look that absolutely baffles me.

Tesla somehow made a vehicle that only looks its best when you put an aftermarket wrap/paintjob on it. It's almost impressive when you think about it.

It has been like this for a while. Teslas paint jobs were never amazing. I knew a guy that worked for a vehicle fleet management company. Most of the Teslas they were dealing with had such a bad paint job that they resorted to vinyl wrapping them.

Granted, this was a few years ago. I would hope they got their quality control processes dialed in by now

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by seanp2k2 »

coffeebeqn wrote: post #184
bryanlarsen wrote: post #58

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> impractical any actual truck work. Some pickup truck work is high mileage, but a surprising amount of it is low mileage. It varies a lot, there are lots of trucks that do less than 100 miles a day. Work trucks are also usually much more predictable than consumer vehicles. Most of them do the same thing every day. The predictability should make buying an EV easier.

The F-150 is the most sold car in the US. How many of those ever see any “real truck work” versus driving from the suburbs to the grocery store or the office ? Probably less than 10%?

And the ones that do are white only, single cab full beds with no options. The fleet / contractor special. A Cybertruck is not that and was never meant to be.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by CrimsonRain »

m463 wrote: post #70
sashank_1509 wrote: post #40

The weird thing I’ve seen is in almost all the online forums I visit, like Reddit, YouTube comment sections, parts of twitter, hacker news, the cybertruck is universally panned. Yet when I drove a cybertruck, the number of onlookers who approached me inquiring about the car with excitement is unmatched with even a Lamborghini that I once rented. Shows how much of a bubble the internet alone is. MKBHD got the ratio’s…

I think the truck is like dating an exciting but shallow person who doesn't care about you. The truck is extremely fast, with excellent steering, suspension and lots of other groundbreaking technology. But it is basically user-hostile. No dashboard, no stalks for turn signals or gear selection, and everything is on the central touchscreen. And that is super cluttered and impossible to do important things without look…

No dashboard, no stalks, no extra buttons are needed. The voice control works just fine.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by seanp2k2 »

FireBeyond wrote: post #102
aeonik wrote: post #88

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Are you talking about the debunking videos that highlight that the Cybertruck only beat the Porsche in the 1/8 mile and not the whole quarter mile? And that Cybertruck is still basically a 10 second truck? It's honestly a absurd and funny to me how fast the truck is. It's like seeing an elephant fly. It's even funnier to see people get angry at it. I definitely don't like marketing and ads, but that's literally how a…

> Are you talking about the debunking videos that highlight that the Cybertruck only beat the Porsche in the 1/8 mile No, I'm talking about the debunking videos and articles that show: "We ran six quarter-mile drag races, and each one had the same outcome: The Porsche 911 Carrera T wins and the Tesla Cybertruck Beast loses... it’s not a particularly close race, either." Re the 1/8: "We can say confidently that Tesla…

Hilarious that they used the base 911 as well, the one with slightly less horsepower than a BMW 340i. We’re talking Golf-R-with-a-chip-tune / stage 2 WRX levels of power here. Not exactly impressive in terms of actual sports cars.

Then you get to lateral grip and uhh, yeah 0.76G is worse than the average minivan.

911s are not designed for drag, especially the base model. If they wanted to compare it to something that’s good in a straight line but no good in corners, a Dodge Demon 170 stickers for under $100k. Comparable horsepower, too.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by Symbiote »

PoignardAzur wrote: post #111

There was a Cybertruck at the Paris Games Week (there was a Tesla corner in the con for some reason). That was my first time seeing one in person. The most striking thing was how tall it was. Half the kids attending the PGW were smaller than its front bumper. I hope these things never, ever get allowed in France.

They are not legal in the EU, but a loophole is being exploited to import them.

I'd appreciate EU citizens writing to their MEPs about this.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/oct/08/tesla-cyb...

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