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Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by bamboozled » Tue, Oct 15, 2024, 10:14 PM UTC

ChuckMcM wrote: post #108

In many ways (no pun intended :-)) I would relate to having an iPad mini and a much much dumber phone which was just text/chat and voice. I have gotten there because I'm constantly in this weird tension between wanting a bigger screen on my phone because the app I'm using and wanting a smaller phone so that it is easier to pocket and carry around. A friend of mine did the folding screen phone thing and that has its a…

You want an Apple Watch imo, I often leave my phone behind now, I’m contactable without distractions.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by lucb1e » Tue, Oct 15, 2024, 10:17 PM UTC

hnburnsy wrote: post #171

alpaca128 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And pay for a screen size I won't use? No, thanks.

Could be dynamic, example, watching a movie, no bezels. Remove the bezels from the top and/or bottom, that changes on the device orientation. Placed in a stand remove the bezels, add them back when picked up.

That sounds awesome actually. Makes me wonder how hard it would be on a rooted phone to just have it tell the software the screen is a few pixels smaller so you can touch chose sides safely, and remove the restriction again when you're in movie mode

Never heard of anyone making that but this would honestly sound like the first innovation in several years, not incremental like "GPS now finds a solution 2 seconds faster" and "the mobile data now uses 7% less energy" but something that is now possible that wasn't a feature before

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by Gigachad » Tue, Oct 15, 2024, 10:19 PM UTC

bananapub wrote: post #83

jerojero wrote: post #3

I wish they had improved the screen a little bit as well. It makes sense to update the model with apple intelligence but that might not be enough for a lot of people to upgrade. Perhaps we're looking at a device that simply will be out of lineup soon (next few years). I do like this form factor a lot though, well, eventually we'll get foldable phones to become mainstream I hope.

> It makes sense to update the model with apple intelligence but that might not be enough for a lot of people to upgrade. that's fine? it's a very mature segment - medium-price small screen tablet. it hasn't even really been updated since 2021, and that was basically new case+usb-c.

The iPads are basically appliances. They release a new model of fridge every year but I've never once considered "Upgrading" my existing one.

My 2014 ipad air 2 is only just starting to feel old.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by seunosewa » Tue, Oct 15, 2024, 10:20 PM UTC

sgerenser wrote: post #42

jerojero wrote: post #3

I wish they had improved the screen a little bit as well. It makes sense to update the model with apple intelligence but that might not be enough for a lot of people to upgrade. Perhaps we're looking at a device that simply will be out of lineup soon (next few years). I do like this form factor a lot though, well, eventually we'll get foldable phones to become mainstream I hope.

There was some chatter on Macrumors that they flipped the orientation of the controller board so that the Jelly scrolling will be gone when used in portrait mode. That was the #1 display complaint on the outgoing model, so if its true then I’d count that as a win on improving the screen.

Wouldn't that cause jelly scrolling in landscape mode?

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by lucb1e » Tue, Oct 15, 2024, 10:21 PM UTC

insane_dreamer wrote: post #52

tommica wrote: post #6

Looks really nice, wish could afford it, but Apple products are so expensive... Commodity products for premium price

True, but they last long enough that you can get them second hand, whereas used products from other vendors tend to be junk not worth spending money on even at a cheaper price point.

Also when buying second hand, you pay for that premium brand

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by Gigachad » Tue, Oct 15, 2024, 10:21 PM UTC

lucb1e wrote: post #180

zitterbewegung wrote: post #116

Bump up from 64 GB default to 128 GB is nice.

It certainly was, like eight years ago when I got the bigger SD card for my phone At this point, the only word that can be applied to it is "overdue" for anything who uses it beyond a thin client for server-side storage or a streaming service

Uh, I'd be willing to bet that almost all ipad mini users use cloud storage and streaming services. That's an extremely common use case.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by jsheard » Tue, Oct 15, 2024, 10:22 PM UTC

lucb1e wrote: post #179

loopdoend wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will accept the trade off for the performance boost tbh.

What performance boost? As in, same software running for comparison on the hardware of interest, one soldered and the other not. I never heard that soldering your SSD on makes it faster...

It doesn't, Apples SSD performance is fine but unremarkable. Their current machines will do around ~6GB/sec read and ~5GB/sec write, which isn't even at the limit of socketed PCIe4 NVMe drives, nevermind the bleeding edge PCIe5 drives which can do up to ~14GB/sec read and ~12GB/sec write (albeit with excessive heat and power consumption for a laptop).

Soldering the RAM has legitimate performance benefits, but soldering the SSD is just to save space and upsell overpriced upgrades.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by thorncorona » Tue, Oct 15, 2024, 10:22 PM UTC

xattt wrote: post #189

ChuckMcM wrote: post #108

In many ways (no pun intended :-)) I would relate to having an iPad mini and a much much dumber phone which was just text/chat and voice. I have gotten there because I'm constantly in this weird tension between wanting a bigger screen on my phone because the app I'm using and wanting a smaller phone so that it is easier to pocket and carry around. A friend of mine did the folding screen phone thing and that has its a…

Apple keeps a lot of owners addicted to their phones by making Watch support exclusive to iPhone. I’d love to go dumbphone and a Watch synced to an iPad at home, but this is not an option.

What keeps them addicted to their watch?

I've never found a compelling use case where I'd willingly buy another Apple watch.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by lucb1e » Tue, Oct 15, 2024, 10:22 PM UTC

skywhopper wrote: post #70

geodel wrote: post #36

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Its commodity you can buy from dozens of other vendors for much cheaper price.

Uh, where can I buy a cheaper iPad?

And while we're at it, can someone finally tell me where people find cheap ferraris? I really want a car but they're just too expensive!

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by mouse_ » Tue, Oct 15, 2024, 10:24 PM UTC

ChuckMcM wrote: post #108

In many ways (no pun intended :-)) I would relate to having an iPad mini and a much much dumber phone which was just text/chat and voice. I have gotten there because I'm constantly in this weird tension between wanting a bigger screen on my phone because the app I'm using and wanting a smaller phone so that it is easier to pocket and carry around. A friend of mine did the folding screen phone thing and that has its a…

Back in the day when Android was KitKat and full of possibilities, I ran a Nexus 7 2nd gen and a cheap phone from my carrier. I'm not sure if it was enlightenment but it was closer to it than today, where I carry around a smartphone that's too big to use comfortably but still too small to use frequently for media.