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OpenAI to become for-profit company

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Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company

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Post by belter »

bayindirh wrote: post #13
mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #11

The most surprising thing to me in this is that the non-profit will still exist. Not sure what the point of it is anymore. Taken as a whole, OpenAI is now just a for-profit entity beholden to investors and Sam Altman as a shareholder. The non-profit is really just vestigial. I guess technically it's supposed to play some role in making sure OpenAI "benefits humanity". But as we've seen multiple times, whenever that g…

> The most surprising thing to me in this is that the non-profit will still exist. That entity will scrape the internet and train the models and claim that "it's just research" to be able to claim that all is fair-use. At this point it's not even funny anymore.

No, it's very funny as the CEO is trying to become Leon... https://fortune.com/2024/09/25/sam-altman-psychedelic-experi...

Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company

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Post by charles_f »

I'm wondering what this will change. This is probably naive from me because I'm relatively uneducated on the topic, but it feels like open-ai has never really worked like your typical non profit (eg keeping their stuff mostly closed sourced and seeking a profit)

Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company

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Post by ReaLNero »

lenerdenator wrote: post #186
neilv wrote: post #66

The incremental transformation from non-profit to for-profit... does anyone have legal standing to sue? Early hires, who were lured there by the mission? Donors? People who were supposed to be served by the non-profit (everyone)? Some government regulator?

Everyone has legal standing to sue at any time for anything. Whether the case is any good is another matter.

This is not at all true, I recommend you look into the exact meaning of "legal standing".

Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company

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Post by moralestapia »

lenerdenator wrote: post #186
neilv wrote: post #66

The incremental transformation from non-profit to for-profit... does anyone have legal standing to sue? Early hires, who were lured there by the mission? Donors? People who were supposed to be served by the non-profit (everyone)? Some government regulator?

Everyone has legal standing to sue at any time for anything. Whether the case is any good is another matter.

Yeah, so funny, *yawn*.

Try to contribute to the conversation, though.

What you say is also untrue, there's a minimum set of requirements that have to be met regarding discovery, etc.

Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company

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Post by humansareok1 »

Given what Sam has done by clearing out every single person who went against him in the initial coup and completely gutting every safety related team the entire world should be on notice. If you believe what Sam Altman himself and many other researchers are saying, that AGI and ASI may well be within reach inside this decade, then every possible alarm bell should be blaring. Sam cannot be allowed to be in control of the most important technology ever devised.

Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company

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Post by philipov »

RALaBarge wrote: post #162
cenamus wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, he is the one that did most of the actual research and work, riiiiight?

No, the hundreds of people who have worked on NNs prior to him arriving were the people who did the MOST actual research and work. Sam was in the right place at the right time.

Introducing Sam Altman, inventor of artificial intelligence! o_o

Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company

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Post by Gud »

fakedang wrote: post #160
mdgrech23 wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The non-profit side is just there to attract talent and encourage them to work harder b/c it's for humanity. Obviously people sniffed out the facts, realized it was all for profit and that lead to an exodus.

Funnily, I think all the non-profit motivated talent has left, and the people left behind are those who stand to (and want to) make a killing when OpenAI becomes a for-profit. And that talent is in the majority - nothing else would explain the show of support for Altman when he was kicked out.

What “show of support”? Not willing to rock the boat is not the same as being supportive.

Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company

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Post by johnwheeler »

evilfred wrote: post #177
johnwheeler wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me this is a no brainer. If it’s a choice between having AI and not,

we already have lots of AI. this is about having plagiarization machines or not.

Yeah we got that AI through scraping.

Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company

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Post by camjw »

espadrine wrote: post #164
UI_at_80x24 wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm ignorant on this topic so please excuse me. Why did `AI` happen now? What was the secret sauce that OpenAI did that seemed to make this explode into being all of a sudden? My general impression was that the concept of 'how it works' existed for a long time, it was only recently that video cards had enough VRAM to hold the matrix(?) within memory to do the necessary calculations. If anybody knows, not just the per…

A short history: 1986: Geoffrey Hinton publishes the backpropagation algorithm as applied to neural networks, allowing more efficient training. 2011: Jeff Dean starts Google Brain. 2012: Ilya Sutskever and Geoffrey Hinton publish AlexNet, which demonstrates that using GPUs yields quicker training on deep networks, surpassing non-neural-network participants by a wide margin on an image categorization competition. 2013…

I know this is just a short history but I think it is inaccurate to say "2015: Ilya Sutskever founds OpenAI." I get that we all want to know what he saw etc and he's clearly one of the smartest people in the world but he didn't found OpenAI by himself. Nor was it his idea to?
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