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What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by mavhc »

austinjp wrote: post #109
digitalengineer wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

inefficiency? It's part of the experience. I'm not in a restaurant or café to drink as fast as possible. I'm there to socialize as well. Waiting a bit is not a bottleneck, but a feature. (If I wanted speed, I'd take the drive-through).

There are plenty of comments disagreeing with you, but I'm fully in agreement. As for the arguments that QR codes are somehow a time-saver, they can be a real time waster . Find phone (not glued to my eyeballs), scan QR, swerve option to install app, wait for enormously bloated website to render badly, get frustrated trying to find what I want, get up to find a staff member to order something but with X instead of Y…

You can always go to an expensive eating establishment.

It's easier to choose from an online system because it's up to date with what's in stock

Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by [deleted] »

GJim wrote: post #108
AStonesThrow wrote: post #72

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A good server is an emissary from the kitchen, who knows the menu, and helps you find the best dishes. A great server establishes rapport with the regulars, anticipates their needs, makes them feel welcome and comfortable. Unfortunately "server" is not considered a respectable career but something you put up with before your film career takes off, or how you pay your college tuition for that juicy psychiatric nurse d…

> "server" is not considered a respectable career In the USA maybe. I can assure you, being a waiter is taken quite seriously by much of the civilised world. A good waiter is an important part of the dining experience.

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Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by Wytwwww »

GJim wrote: post #108
AStonesThrow wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A good server is an emissary from the kitchen, who knows the menu, and helps you find the best dishes. A great server establishes rapport with the regulars, anticipates their needs, makes them feel welcome and comfortable. Unfortunately "server" is not considered a respectable career but something you put up with before your film career takes off, or how you pay your college tuition for that juicy psychiatric nurse d…

> "server" is not considered a respectable career In the USA maybe. I can assure you, being a waiter is taken quite seriously by much of the civilised world. A good waiter is an important part of the dining experience.

> In the USA maybe.

Yet in the US, due to tipping, it can be (and generally is in most more affluent areas) considerably better paid and lucrative than pretty much anywhere else.

Also I'm not sure what are you saying is generally true at all in most places (unless we're talking about a specific subset of restaurants).

Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by LukaD »

hnbad wrote: post #176

Looks like the article was deleted and purged from archive.org. I wonder if anyone saved a copy elsewhere? From the comments it seems likely the author realized they may have accidentally committed a crime or at least done something that could cause real legal consequences for them and quickly destroyed the evidence. That's probably better than leaving it up but I'd wager it wouldn't protect them from any legal conse…

It's still there on archive.org https://web.archive.org/web/20240923053856/https://peabee.su...

Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by PUSH_AX »

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #180
PUSH_AX wrote: post #144

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> Am I? I mean, yeah.. You've even done it again. Outlining situations with perfect service. That's great, now think about the original problem statement where service becomes a bottle neck, and no "if you want great fast service just go elsewhere" is not an elegant solution, sorry.

> Outlining situations with perfect service What are you even talking about? Are you implying that QR code solutions are optimal for shitty services? > where service becomes a bottle neck this is a textbook example of false dilemma. If service is the bottleneck making the ordering process faster will make things worse, not better. If anything if a place is slow to take orders, I know they'll be late on serving it I c…

> this is a textbook example of false dilemma. If service is the bottleneck making the ordering process faster will make things worse, not better.

I’m sort of at a loss for words, I haven’t posed a dilemma, also do you think a server exclusively does one task and nothing else, or is it more fair to say they do multiple and eradicating one task frees up capacity for another?

As I’ve said I’ve seen the efficiencies first hand, and I gain nothing trying to explain them further at this point. Enjoy your day.

Edit for the below reply: apparently I’m a liar too? Super rude and highly disappointing. Systems like this have been rolled out in thousands if not millions of restaurants, apparently for no good reason..

Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by Wytwwww »

appendix-rock wrote: post #19
globular-toast wrote: post #8

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If you discovered an incompetent healthcare provider was prescribing antibiotics for every condition would you "contact them privately" or contact the relevant authorities? Private disclosure is for when you believe the company cares about security but made a genuine mistake. For the company in the OP it would be more like free education in fundamental privacy and ethics. They're not entitled to that. Name and shame.

Sure, but what you’re describing is not what is being suggested. Responsible disclosure typically involves disclosing publicly after a reasonable period of time.

In the EU this would be illegal and (hopefully) lead to very high fines. So why would you try to help and conceal their criminal behaviour instead of reporting them?

Of course in other places, there aren't really any good options. So I guess the most "moral" approach would be to what you think would cause most financial damage to the business and discourage people from going there.

Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by Wytwwww »

altacc wrote: post #75
TeMPOraL wrote: post #34

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Why? Why should they be the responsible ones, when the well-funded, well-connected service provider is acting like the fly-by-night startup (that they probably started as)? There's little public benefit in responsible disclosure here; all it would lead to is the whole thing being swept under the rug with some trivial "fix". There's lots of public benefit in immediate, wide disclosure - the scramble to fix this under…

There's a big difference between announcing "I found all this private data" and "I found all this private data and here's exactly how I did it and here are the URLs". What the author has done is detail exactly how anyone else can abuse this system from anywhere in the world and also given them ideas about what to do with that information that would cause a direct cost to the company. I think that's irresponsible and…

> cause a direct cost to the company

Nothing wrong about that. Of course still doesn't justify publishing/providing access to client data who did nothing wrong.

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