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Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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The Supermicro story was never proven to be anything but bullshit, though. The more you looked into it, the less it added up.

True, probably the NSA wanted to smear the Chinese when in fact they are the ones implanting bugs in hardware.

Maybe the Chinese wanted to smear the NSA by making it look like the NSA was trying to smear the Chinese when the NSA in fact were the ones implanting bugs in the hardware...

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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I'm genuinely curious: how is this not considered terrorism on Israel's part? (or is it considered terrorism?)

From a tactical standpoint, this is very similar, and the only big difference I see is that this is technologically more advanced/more complex than just planting a bomb or something.

If it's not terrorism, what is the differentiating factor(s)?

*side note: I'm quite sure other western countries have used tactics that I would call terrorism as well. This isn't meant to be a callout or anti-anything post. I'm genuinely curious where the line is drawn.

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8 senior Hezbollah officers are dead. So far the only clear indication of a non-Hezbollah injury is from a Hezbollah officers daughter. Sounds successful and well targeted. If you don't want your electronics to explode randomly, don't attack Jews.

Now that the pandoras box of mass booby trapping electronic devices has been opened, who is to say we won't see tit for tat retaliations with other supply chain attacks?

Will every teddy bear now need to be scanned for explosives before entering the country?

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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I'm genuinely curious: how is this not considered terrorism on Israel's part? (or is it considered terrorism?) From a tactical standpoint, this is very similar, and the only big difference I see is that this is technologically more advanced/more complex than just planting a bomb or something. If it's not terrorism, what is the differentiating factor(s)? *side note: I'm quite sure other western countries have used tac…

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Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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I guess they are taking a victory lap around yesterday's major embarrassment. I never thought that you could dismantle a terrorist organization so surgically by just booby-trapping comms devices. This will certainly be made into a blockbuster movie in ten years. I'll re-iterate my previous comment on this matter: this is an impressive supply-chain hack with absolutely oversized results, and you gotta hand it to them…

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Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

#196

I'm genuinely curious: how is this not considered terrorism on Israel's part? (or is it considered terrorism?) From a tactical standpoint, this is very similar, and the only big difference I see is that this is technologically more advanced/more complex than just planting a bomb or something. If it's not terrorism, what is the differentiating factor(s)? *side note: I'm quite sure other western countries have used tac…

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Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Ha, maybe this will be the turning point for international corporations becoming national-only? Or maybe make the big brands like Apple/Samsung the only trusted device manufacturers and completely wipe out the small ones? No iPhones exploded so far but I wouldn't be surprised if the paranoia takes over everywhere and local supply chains and local producers become a thing. "Foreign social media platforms" was already…

If they have the capacity to intercept the supply chain, they almost certainly have been implanting listening devices in electronics of all sorts. If you're not in Hezbollah or Hamas you probably don't need to worry about getting blown up by your phone, but if you've got a large platform and been very critical of Israel, it wouldn't be a huge stretch to imagine that you might get personally targeted by communication interception.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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I'm genuinely curious: how is this not considered terrorism on Israel's part? (or is it considered terrorism?) From a tactical standpoint, this is very similar, and the only big difference I see is that this is technologically more advanced/more complex than just planting a bomb or something. If it's not terrorism, what is the differentiating factor(s)? *side note: I'm quite sure other western countries have used tac…

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Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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I guess they are taking a victory lap around yesterday's major embarrassment. I never thought that you could dismantle a terrorist organization so surgically by just booby-trapping comms devices. This will certainly be made into a blockbuster movie in ten years. I'll re-iterate my previous comment on this matter: this is an impressive supply-chain hack with absolutely oversized results, and you gotta hand it to them…

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For sure, yesterday's was a terrorist attack, since it indiscriminately hit civilians (multiple children, healthcare workers, etc.)

That said, before more people jump on the rethoric of declaring a specific entity terrorist:

The decision is usually made by your state's authorities, and depending on where you live, Hezbollah might not be considered a terrorist organization, or its military wing might be considered terrorist, but not Hezbollah as a whole (like in the EU).

Since we've seen medics among the victims, it's pretty clear that this was not surgically targeting a the military wing, and thus few people would dare claim that this was targeted against terrorists.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Imagine the paranoia that must be flooding Hezbollah right now. You can't function without your electronics...but you can't trust them at all now. You don't even know how many or which of your gadgets have been compromised to spy on you and for how long. Massive, massive L.

The actual body count could be zero and it would still be devastating.

I could even believe the supply chain infiltration was fake and radios were manually replaced day of the attack with a crude timer. Anything to give the appearance of omnipotence.

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