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Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

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Post by Bognar »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #81
jnwatson wrote: post #41

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And why is that? It isn't for DRM (the game is free). It is for anti-cheat, and it is great. The libertarian maximalist i-can-do-what-i-want-with-my-computer ignore the many use cases where I want to trust something about someone else's computer, and trusted computing enables those use cases.

Is it so radical to want to be in control of your stuff? What are these use cases where we need to have third parties in control? I don't really buy the gaming one, in every other domain where a community of people are gathering to do a thing they enjoy together it's on the community and not the tool maker to figure out how to avoid bad behavior. If you don't wanna play with cheaters then just play with somebody else…

You are in control. You can disable secure boot, you can install your own keys, you don't have to boot windows, you don't have to play games that demand invasive anti-cheat. Vote with your wallet.

Relying on the community to police cheaters is not an effective strategy for online skill-based matchmaking games. There's a reason game companies spend money and effort on anti-cheat and it's not because they're ignoring cheaper alternatives.

Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

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Post by Alifatisk »

dist-epoch wrote: post #177
throwaway48476 wrote: post #138

Can this be used to enable the HEVC extension without a M$ account? It's so frustrating they can't license the patents as a lump sum.

You don't need to pay. You just need the direct link ms-windows-store://pdp?productId=9N4WGH0Z6VHQ ms-windows-store://pdp?productId=9PMMSR1CGPWG ms-windows-store://pdp?productid=9MVZQVXJBQ9V ms-windows-store://pdp?productid=9N4D0MSMP0PT ms-windows-store://pdp?productid=9N95Q1ZZPMH4

How do you get the direct link?

Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

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Post by mjr00 »

choo-t wrote: post #136
mjr00 wrote: post #129

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Many games have ranked ladders now which are taken fairly seriously. Success at high levels of ladder player often translates into career opportunities, especially in League of Legends. > Any ELO-based matchmaking will solve this, cheater will end-up playing against each-other or against very skilled player. Well, first, you're wrong, because cheating only makes them good at one part of the game, not every part of th…

> You don't play competitive games, that's fine, but a lot of people do and they demand more competitive integrity than casual players. Little difference : I don't play competitive game with completes strangers on company run servers. I've played competitively on community based server, with people being screened by other players and the community able to regulate itself (ban or unban players). The problem space is v…

> Little difference : I don't play competitive game with completes strangers on company run servers.

People don't consider playing around with your friends to be competitive. You don't get to choose who else is competing in the game or what strategies they use. This is just an area that you are clearly not familiar with.

> The whole kernel-level anticheat stuff is a poor solution to a self-made problem by the developer : they wanted to be the one in charge of the game and servers, so they needed to slash human moderation need. They also wanted to create a unique pool of player and didn't want the community to split between itself and play how they want.

This wasn't self-made by the developer, it was demanded by the players. Competitive games have almost exclusively moved to online, skill-based matchmaking with a ladder system because that's what players want.

Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

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Post by AshamedCaptain »

delfinom wrote: post #175
AshamedCaptain wrote: post #67

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> Microsoft will never create a situation where alternative operating systems can’t be installed. They already went through the antitrust ringer on that issue. They have shipped ARM Surfaces where alternative operating systems could not get installed, enforced with Secure Boot permanently on. Have they been through any such "antitrust ringer" in the past 10 years? > Also, if you have a PC with secure boot enabled, th…

You can in fact disable secure boot on the arm surfaces. The problem is nobody really has put enough effort to port Linux to it. Some people started but haven't gotten very far https://github.com/orgs/linux-surface/projects/1 https://github.com/linux-surface/aarch64-firmware https://github.com/linux-surface/aarch64-packages >, a Windows update added a number of Linux distributions to the Secure Boot blacklist It was…

> You can in fact disable secure boot on the arm surfaces.

Not all. I know for a fact you could not in the RT/2.

This is despite the fact that people _do put effort_. This is how I know, for example, that some Linux workarounds for "funny" ACPI interpretations had to be also "ported" to the ARM architecture in ACPI ARM Linux because Windows is literally making the same "bugs" all over again. Except, this time, Windows hardware is in the _minority_, and there's plenty of ARM ACPI devices that do not require these workarounds...

> It was due to a bug/and or not being able to detect all manners of dual boot correctly.

Sure. It is also a bug they just applied these blacklists automatically in the first place? It is also a bug that the list of blacklisted bootloaders mostly comprises non-MS oses, despite the fact there are well-known issues in many Windows versions?

Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

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Post by hoffs »

thot_experiment wrote: post #189
38 wrote: post #118

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Exactly why you should never, ever, enable auto update, for anything. Too often it ends up breaking something or patching something you don't want patched. It allows a profit seeking company to enable or disable software functionality on your device, regardless if it's in your interest.

Yup, 100%. My golden rule of computers is: If it's working right now, an update can only cause it to break. The best case scenario is that it still works. Why would your roll the dice?

Golden rule to get exploited

Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

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Post by ddingus »

123pie123 wrote: post #169
23B1 wrote: post #145

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> Price is a barrier to entry for many users who wouldn't have paid for the software. This is what demos, student licenses, etc. are for. I don't care what your justification is, property theft is wrong.

it is NOT 'property theft', since nothing has been stolen, just copied the term you want is Copyright infringement

You are correct, however unpopular too.

We have the word infringe for the cases where the word theft is inaccurate.

Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

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Post by heraldgeezer »

dist-epoch wrote: post #20
doubled112 wrote: post #19

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What does that do for me to stop malware? Bitlocker is only protecting an offline system Also consider that some keys for Secure Boot have been compromised.

So I guess then your computer does not have a form of Secure Boot enabled, and your drives are not encrypted. Makes sense, more secure.

If it's a desktop, who cares?

Secure boot and BitLocker for the enterprise laptops, sure.

For gamers/hackers/hobbyists, why?

Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

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Post by 38 »

hoffs wrote: post #196
thot_experiment wrote: post #189

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Yup, 100%. My golden rule of computers is: If it's working right now, an update can only cause it to break. The best case scenario is that it still works. Why would your roll the dice?

Golden rule to get exploited

the "but muh security" argument is absolute horseshit 99% of the time. and the 1% that actually need it, are going well beyond automatic updates to secure their systems.

Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

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Post by ddingus »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #190
dangus wrote: post #50

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Apple has SMS if you don’t own an Apple device. In fact, they require SMS to set up 2FA. They probably dropped totp because non-technical people can’t figure it out.

Hell technical people can't figure it out. Everyone complains that it's fragile because what if their phone breaks, and those that think they know better, think it's because of the dozen one-time-use emergency codes. It's not their fault though. Every web site or service that offers totp and the most user-facing apps like google authenticator all scrupulously avoid telling you to save the seed value in the initial se…

Where can I read more about how this is done.
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