I just wish this guy would take the loss and sell twitter and go back to being an uncontroversial tech legend. Mixing with Social media has corrupted every positive thing he has done and maybe will do if he keeps it up at the current pace. People tire of the drama king. If you don't know what I mean.. he said his transgender child is dead to him in a publicly aired interview. That's where this guy is in his personal…
Drama is the only way for him to continue covering up the massive Ponzi that his businesses have evolved into. Tesla won't last much longer. Their numbers are objectively terrible, and they're puffed up, the truth is even uglier. Boring is losing money fast, X is losing money fast, xAI is losing money fast, NeuraLink is losing a bit slower, but losing. SpaceX is propped up by US govt and Starlink is the only real ass…
Starlink Defies Order to Block X in Brazil
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If these accounts were banned due to censorship they'd have stayed banned. There are plenty of accounts that were shut down on Twitter that are still disabled today.
And you know that how exactly? Do you work at Twitter? Are you responsible for banning/restoring accounts? You're making broad statements and assumptions that don't align with reality. The accounts were banned. You don't know why they were banned or restored.
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And you know that how exactly? Do you work at Twitter? Are you responsible for banning/restoring accounts? You're making broad statements and assumptions that don't align with reality. The accounts were banned. You don't know why they were banned or restored.
I actually did work on account suspensions and abuse handling at Google, and after I left I visited Twitter and gave them a talk about bot fighting techniques, so yeah. I don't know these accounts specifically but have worked in that field and know the signs.
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Yes, I do. That's precisely my point. It's based on law. Brazil is a democratic country. The law is the will of the people, or at least it is as much as bullshit USA-based representative democracy goes. Still much closer to the will of the people than Musk's personal opinions and whims.
Sorry, but you are completely missing the point. Have a nice day.
Have a nice day yourself!
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Well I can't speak for anyone else, but I come from the US and have a view of free speech that is decidedly in conflict with how America handles speech today. I disagree with the bans we already have on the books and find the phrase "free speech absolutism" to be ridiculous. Speech is either free or it isn't. There's nothing wrong with being concerned enough with certain types of speech that the society collectively…
You disagree with the ban on child pornography? Or counterfeit currency? You're anti-copyright? No problem with libel? You think that it's fine to incite vulnerable people to commit suicide, or other threats of violence? America chooses to allow speech to be used as a weapon to attack people (although with limitations), other countries don't. You may like that, you might think America has too many limits, but the maj…
I don't have a problem with libel, no. People could say what they want about me, its not my problem unless the courts and jury allow a case against me with no evidence.
Anything one says can't incite suicide. As terrible as it is that is a decision made by the person who committed suicide. I've lost a close childhood friend and a close family member to suicide, it was their chose alone and I would never put burden that on someone else.
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>You disagree with the ban on child pornography? Or counterfeit currency? I fail to see how porn or money can be categorized as speech.
So your definition of free speech is different to others, for example JSG Boggs [0]. Unsurprising really, and not really "wrong", any more than people who have different opinions to you are wrong. [0] https://news.artnet.com/art-world/jsg-boggs-money-artist-die...
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#197Is this a principled defense of free speech or a case of a man treating ostensibly independent companies as divisions of his personal conglomerate?
Looks to me like Brazil is treating ostensibly independent companies as divisions of Musks personal conglomerate. They blocked the funds of Starlink because of X related business. So why are you saying this?
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So your definition of free speech is different to others, for example JSG Boggs [0]. Unsurprising really, and not really "wrong", any more than people who have different opinions to you are wrong. [0] https://news.artnet.com/art-world/jsg-boggs-money-artist-die...
I do personally disagree with this definition. Free speech was always intended to protect the right to say whatever you want. The expansion of what falls under free speech is dangerous and, as made clear today, leads to arguments that erode what was originally meant to be a fundamental right.
Who intended that?
So you have no problem with defamation? Or threats?
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You mean me, the aerospace engineer, who has published in this field, doesn't know how satellite constellations, link budgets, astrodynamics, the orbital environment, the systems engineering, and the other minutiae of this, doesn't understand the tradeoffs in building these things? What do you know, in a professional capacity? Tell me you're in this field, or piss off. Tell me how big is space. Like, is it as big as…
I'll ask you an easy question. There's another LEO provider with around the number of sats you recommend. What's the provider and how much do they charge for fixed use in the USA? I worked at a cellular Telco serving customers with an ARPU under $20. Also worked at a satellite tech reseller. These unreachable poor people were my bread and butter. Your statements show ignorance about the markets, space and other minut…
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What's happening is clear: Elon doesn't like Lula, the Brazilian president. Lula is left wing: his predecessor was a Trump-esque idiot. I'd guess many of Lula's actual policies harm the Musk's material interests in some way, or are just things he doesn't like. It might literally just be that Musk has heard Lula is left wing and therefore wants to make life as hard as possible.
Thats where we are now. You also couldn't refrain from calling a political oponent "Trump-esque idiot". Imagine what you would do to them if you had enough money to actually go out for a fight?