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Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by whamlastxmas »

mozempthrowaway wrote: post #165
PaulHoule wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google funding Firefox is part of the problem. It contributes to the perception of corruption around the Mozilla organization, just as it does when the bus has a supergraphic ad for a car dealership on it. If the EU was serious about privacy they'd fully fund Firefox.

The perception of corruption is not without merit. Mozilla is pretty corrupt at this point. (Source: I work here). I really don’t get where this whole “the EU should fund it” idea came from and why it’s repeated so often. Why would the EU throw their tax payer money at another corrupt American corporation? Mozilla has been in bed with Google for several years, has horrible web compatibility, and is only barely still…

Can you elaborate on specifics of corruption?

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by whamlastxmas »

markus_zhang wrote: post #45

On a side note, I have been reflecting on the impact of modern Internet contents on me for the last 12 years or so. The conclusion is, for whatever the reason, the impact is mostly negative. It would do me a great favor to simply remove Youtube, social media sites and anything similar from my life. I probably have ADHD. I rarely completed any side projects. I'm anxious most if the time, biting my fingers all the time…

My adhd was helped a lot by:

Reading about adhd to understand how it impacts your brain and life

Reading about coping mechanisms and actually doing them

Things everyone hears and never does but it absolutely helps: good diet, exercise, meditation

Work on any other mental health issues you have

Therapy

Lots of trial and error of management methods to see what works

Learning to be kind to myself

Stopping “I should” statements.

Realizing that if something was actually that important to me, I would work on it. If I don’t finish a side project it means it probably isn’t that important and that’s okay

And medication, which alone is at least 30% of the improvement

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by EasyMark »

bawolff wrote: post #118
neilv wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since YouTube has massive resources and famed tooling&processes, presumably either they knew about the Firefox problems before deploying, or (if there was a genuine QA mistake) they'd know about it very soon after deploy, when they'd be able to rollback if they wanted to. (Obviously, they know about Firefox, they've developed for it since it was available, and they've even been funding it.)

I always find these comments a bit rediculous. You think that big corporations are incapable of having accidental bugs? Wish that were true. The world would be a much less buggy place.

In the world of fail early, fail often this stuff is bound to happen. That said YouTube works fine for me minus the obvious resolution issues that YouTube has been enforcing forever because of DMCAon some videos

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by whalesalad »

bmicraft wrote: post #179
PaulHoule wrote: post #2

Google has been degrading YouTube in Firefox for me for about six months. Where are the antitrust enforcers when you need them?

I'm always hearing that, but I've yet to see a single video load slow enough to notice. And I'm using YouTube quite a lot.

Happens to me all the time. I switched to Chrome just due to the way Firefox sucks with YouTube. This is on Linux, 5k display, YT premium, highest quality available.

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by ilrwbwrkhv »

prartichoke wrote: post #82
darby_nine wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yeah, it's time for Google to be broken up into pieces because of anti-competitive laws and really get back to making America into a capitalistic society once again. Isn't that what got us into this mess in the first place? Seems to me that anti-competitive practices are the logical conclusion of privately-owned enterprise. EDIT: to be clear, I'm very pro breaking up google. I'm just surprised that people are comin…

What got us here is a capitalistic society where antitrust laws are not implemented in practice. Time to go back to square one and change that

Exactly this.

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by EasyMark »

wannacboatmovie wrote: post #124
PaulHoule wrote: post #2

Google has been degrading YouTube in Firefox for me for about six months. Where are the antitrust enforcers when you need them?

We are supposed to believe Google hires some of the most brilliant minds on the planet, but I've yet to see evidence of this. YouTube has been unusable for years and is only getting worse. When one of your flagship products is unusable for both technical people and novices alike, in my mind you have failed as a company. The front end is what the user sees and what matters. YouTube was a better product 10 years ago an…

Can you say what in particular? Maybe you’re using it in a different way than me. tI never seem to have any issues with YouTube, albeit I’m not a heavy user, and I never post videos and I use block origin to block ads; I just consume video content. The DMCA limitations on high Rez stuff is annoying but that’s a licensing issue. It’s not exactly the fastest website on the planet, but it works fine

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by miah_ »

mozempthrowaway wrote: post #184
miah_ wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Despite those stats, if Google wants to avoid being called a monopoly they need to support it, and it needs to receive the same level of support as their own product.

It’s not monopolistic to not support shitty browsers with little user base. This isn’t even the basis for the current antitrust ruling against Google, for what it’s worth. As the parent comment points out, if YouTube isn’t buggy for most of their users, why do they have to worry about it? We don’t expect either Microsoft or game devs to ensure their stuff works well with wine on Linux.

So you work at Google on Youtube then right?

The _WEB_ is a open standard. A Game running on Windows is a false equivalence.

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by kyriakos »

miah_ wrote: post #188
kyriakos wrote: post #175

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They can fork Chromium instead. Doesn't mean Firefox is the best base to start.

The illusion of choice: You can have any color car as long as its black. I mean you can run any browser you want, as long as its Chrome.

If Firefox had 90% of the market would it be a choice?

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by croisillon »

cholantesh wrote: post #77
croisillon wrote: post #5

with ublock i never had problems and no ads either

I have occasionally run into a weird issue when I jump from one video to another - Video 1's title, comments and description (and maybe its recommendations?) will be displayed but Video 2 will play in the container. Load times are also wonky, but that's about it.

maybe i'm not such a heavy user
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