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Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

#191

Funny they are being fined in the Netherlands, because Uber is almost invisible there, as regular taxis have been protected. I don't have accurate data, but it's at least 15€ per inhabitant, so it seems like a very very steep fine. I can't imagine how much this is per driver, €25000? It seems the dutch regulator is saying "why don't you just go away?". The feeling is likely mutual.

Uber HQ is in the Netherlands. They like the tax system here..

Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

#192

Which big tech company will be the first to stop doing business in Europe? It's going to happen sooner or later.

I'm not sure if it will actually happen. But the theoretical "problem" with these "X% of worldwide revenue" fines is that they change the calculus of launching an existing product in Europe. It makes it so that if a company enters the EU they risk it being a net negative to revenue.

Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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> EU has realized American companies got a hell lot of expendable cash so they enjoy milking them xD

EU has realised American companies have become highly optimised wealth extraction machines and aren't providing nearly as much value as they are extracting, while also violating local privacy laws and skirting taxes.

The value void that Uber leaves will easily be filled, which is merely an app to buy services that have existed as long as the horse and cart. Keeping Uber benefits no one in the EU.

Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

#195

Which big tech company will be the first to stop doing business in Europe? It's going to happen sooner or later.

Not many will shed a tear for Uber. Europe had taxis, private for hire limousines, taxi apps and delivery services long before Uber arrived.

And no, they won't leave. They will comply in order to have access to the European market.

Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

#196
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Does anyone know good best practices and software/DB patterns to model localized GDPR-compliance into global software systems? I know ASP.NET Core comes with some GDPR-related helpers but it's more interesting to know general best practices and patterns not related to a specific framework.

Yeah, I have to think things like DynamoDB Global Tables and other tools designed (in a bygone era) of "magic low latency from anywhere in the world" are going to be big footguns going forward.

Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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> Since the end of last year, Uber uses the successor to the Privacy Shield. Sounds like they're going to get condemned again in the future, seeing how these things get knocked down again and again. The EU commission is really dropping the ball there.

The EC has issued an "adequacy decision" regarding the new EU–US Data Privacy Framework (the replacement for Privacy Shield): https://commission.europa.eu/document/fa09cbad-dd7d-4684-ae6... and has begun "certifying" compliance with the Framework: https://www.dataprivacyframework.gov/list So maybe the DPAs will defer to the EC's interpretation of adequacy under the GDPR for this new Framework? Lots of unknowns though…

> The EC has issued an "adequacy decision" regarding the new EU–US Data Privacy Framework

To bad the EC isn't the body that can judge whether that deal is legal, and has been caught repeatedly lying about past deals [1].

> So maybe the DPAs will defer to the EC's interpretation of adequacy under the GDPR for this new Framework?

As before, cases will go to the actual authority on the matter: the CJUE. I personally don't have high hopes for this deal to last.

[1]: https://noyb.eu/en/european-commission-gives-eu-us-data-tran...

Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

#198

Which big tech company will be the first to stop doing business in Europe? It's going to happen sooner or later.

I doubt it. Besides Apple, none has even complained very loudly, and even Apple just did it in order to garner some sympathy points from the fans. That is, for marketing reasons. The fact is that none of this legislative stuff, this basic level of consumer protection in the EU is in any way a dealbreaker or a significant hindrance to big tech, merely a cost of doing business.

Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

#199

Which big tech company will be the first to stop doing business in Europe? It's going to happen sooner or later.

The sooner the better. This way local EU players can fill the void they'll leave. This insular isolation also fueled China's domestic SW sector.

this take is naive.

building alternatives takes time and resources. the EU has neither.

a diverse, competitive tech ecosystem with both EU and non-EU players is better than a protectionist approach.

hoping for an exodus of major global players when you’re leapfrogged by both China and the US…

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