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Children should be allowed to get bored (2013)

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Re: Children should be allowed to get bored (2013)

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> All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone. —BP

This immediately brings to mind the Seinfeld episode where Ellen's boyfriend stares blankly at the back of the airplane seat in front of him on a long international flight. That being said, I generally agree with the sentiment.

I heard this is a new found again trend amongst some youtubers.

Re: Children should be allowed to get bored (2013)

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Exactly. Punching someone in the face in high school is a good way to get shot, stabbed, poisoned, or run over.

HN excels in American exceptionalism. Large portions of globe functions with fights at school that don't escalate to death or injury with a weapon.

My problem with current fights in canada, where school shooters exist but are rare, is they seem largely gang related (read business related) which doesnt have a chance of providing the right lesson because the lesson from a business fight is the same lesson from bullying fights: come back with a bigger weapon to right this injustice. The lesson we are looking for requires the kid know the social norms roughly and be in a testing situation that crosses the line, is corrected with a mild amount of violence from the other kid but leaves the situation such that they could repair the friendship in the future with the right words and realizations. This happened at least five times in my youth and atleast two escalated to a bit of violence and it was informative. I dont see it happening at all in my kids or my neices and nephews youths and that c(ncerns me a bit.

Re: Children should be allowed to get bored (2013)

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HN excels in American exceptionalism. Large portions of globe functions with fights at school that don't escalate to death or injury with a weapon.

My problem with current fights in canada, where school shooters exist but are rare, is they seem largely gang related (read business related) which doesnt have a chance of providing the right lesson because the lesson from a business fight is the same lesson from bullying fights: come back with a bigger weapon to right this injustice. The lesson we are looking for requires the kid know the social norms roughly and be…

I'm 60+, Australian, and (eventually) went to a high school with a lot of physicality, mixed groups, and seething undercurrents - a mining town with global migrant workers on traditional indigenous land.

We had fights, they could be brutal, the social mechanics allowed a needle to be threaded which myself and a number of others largely managed to do; stand your ground, don't engage physically, don't run .. if someone calls you out and starts smack talking, don't rise, just reply and confound. If they take a swing dodge it and don't respond, if it lands, suck it up and don't respond - in the rung climbing of high school and elsewhere this makes the other look a fool.

There were lessons learned from that and I can still my grandchildren benefitting from phyical encounters (not just fights, engagement with big waves, steep hills, solid animals, bicycles and motorbikes) that can hurt but largely don't kill them.

Re: Children should be allowed to get bored (2013)

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I feel the destructive behaviour of bored kids is forgotten a bit. Growing up in the late 70s early 80s we were kicked out of the house until dinner. We did a lot of really dangerous things exploring. Among these, -Playing in storm drains. Inside the narrow tunnels I might add. -Abandoned construction sites. -Railway tracks. Putting things o the rails waiting for the train to see what happened. Everything from rocks…

Ehem - sounds like a normal childhood? Compare that to the sheltered, all-wishes-granted and no minute spent w/o distractions like social media, kids. Started with Gen Z who get all angsty, with panic attacks, when they have to start performing, i.e., during final exams and the like. And never learned to deal with emotions and free-floating thoughts, handling themself, keeping calm. (all observed from multiple cowork…

> all observed

Reminds me of the Mark Twain quote:

> When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.

I wonder what the equivalent is for knowing how to be the perfect parent until becoming one yourself.

Re: Children should be allowed to get bored (2013)

#196

> All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone. —BP

good faith or bad faith, doesn't matter; as long as we have the faith that can get skeptics to rewrite their firmware without actual violence --not DXP If you open the window some flies will get in --DXP

> good faith or bad faith, doesn't matter; as long as we have the faith that can get skeptics to rewrite their firmware without actual violence

I prefer my faiths justified, but if you lack that constraint, the wheel in the sky keeps on turning, and so the Age of Aquarius ought to be rolling around within your ~250 year timeframe?

Re: Children should be allowed to get bored (2013)

#197

> All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone. —BP

good faith or bad faith, doesn't matter; as long as we have the faith that can get skeptics to rewrite their firmware without actual violence --not DXP If you open the window some flies will get in --DXP

> If you open the window some flies will get in

If enough flies get in, the housecats will be more interested in them than in the pigeons outside?

Re: Children should be allowed to get bored (2013)

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good faith or bad faith, doesn't matter; as long as we have the faith that can get skeptics to rewrite their firmware without actual violence --not DXP If you open the window some flies will get in --DXP

> If you open the window some flies will get in If enough flies get in, the housecats will be more interested in them than in the pigeons outside?

My certitudes ATM say..

Not much, but Kurt had a thing for amoebas, roughly like beetles in your model??

Then maybe approximate flies as amoebas?

Re: Children should be allowed to get bored (2013)

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> If you open the window some flies will get in If enough flies get in, the housecats will be more interested in them than in the pigeons outside?

My certitudes ATM say.. Not much, but Kurt had a thing for amoebas, roughly like beetles in your model?? Then maybe approximate flies as amoebas?

Nice, nice, very nice!

Re: Children should be allowed to get bored (2013)

#200

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good faith or bad faith, doesn't matter; as long as we have the faith that can get skeptics to rewrite their firmware without actual violence --not DXP If you open the window some flies will get in --DXP

> good faith or bad faith, doesn't matter; as long as we have the faith that can get skeptics to rewrite their firmware without actual violence I prefer my faiths justified, but if you lack that constraint, the wheel in the sky keeps on turning, and so the Age of Aquarius ought to be rolling around within your ~250 year timeframe?

E.g. this.
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