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10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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I support immigration and oppose the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. For example, in this article is about white collar crime, it points out that many Somali-Americans were professionals back in Somalia. I'm not concerned about the crime because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency unt…

> the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. Explain how unskilled illegal immigrants contribute to our success. I'm open minded but I've yet to hear anything convincing. No one is opposed to the legal immigration of skilled workers.

lowering cost of labor expands our economy, agglomeration effects, etc.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

#192

I support immigration and oppose the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. For example, in this article is about white collar crime, it points out that many Somali-Americans were professionals back in Somalia. I'm not concerned about the crime because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency unt…

> the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. Explain how unskilled illegal immigrants contribute to our success. I'm open minded but I've yet to hear anything convincing. No one is opposed to the legal immigration of skilled workers.

Why would we be opposed to unskilled immigrants? The majority of the people who came here from Europe in the 1700s and 1800s were laborers, factory workers, farmers, and other simple occupations. Why are we pulling up the ladder behind them? Did you want to freeze the US as it was circa 1950? Things change man. The US isn't forever, anymore than Rome was. You gotta stop trying to fight the current and pretending that by preventing "unskilled immigration" you can maintain the US in some hypothetical idealized state completely specific to your imagination.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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There’s a very sizable number of low paying, dirty, dangerous, and/or boring jobs that we can’t find enough locals to do. Think farm hands, home care aides, meat processors, etc. Unskilled immigrants do those jobs because that’s what is available to them (I.e unskilled). If they weren’t doing those jobs, we’d have to pay significantly more for the goods and services that labor depends on. Immigrant labor is disinflat…

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if you don’t think lots of immigrants (and likely illegal immigrants) work as farm hands and at meat processor plants, you have clearly not spent much time in those industries

https://www.latimes.com/food/story/2020-05-26/meatpacking-in...

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/business/economy/immigrat...

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

#194

I support immigration and oppose the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. For example, in this article is about white collar crime, it points out that many Somali-Americans were professionals back in Somalia. I'm not concerned about the crime because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency unt…

correction: anti-illegal immigrant platform. the 3rd worlder influx of criminals is negative for the country not positive.

What is and isn't legal immigration is always a moving target. A majority of US history included open borders where it was legal for anyone to get off a boat, provide some basic info, and go on to try and make their way here.

The idea of closed borders, immigration caps, etc is relatively modern and driven more by the fact that social entitlement programs cost money than a fear of dangerous people coming here.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

#195

I support immigration and oppose the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. For example, in this article is about white collar crime, it points out that many Somali-Americans were professionals back in Somalia. I'm not concerned about the crime because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency unt…

correction: anti-illegal immigrant platform. the 3rd worlder influx of criminals is negative for the country not positive.

An easy way to reduce illegal immigration is to raise quotas. People would rather migrate legally.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

#197

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A bunch of Floridians who are, or are descended from, folks who had their land and businesses seized during the revolution are holding grudges and won’t let go of them until they’re given their stuff back or a ton of money, which, this far on, isn’t happening. Florida is important in Presidential elections. US elections are structured such that dumb stuff like a relatively small—but loud—and also hopeless interest in…

> A bunch of Floridians who are, or are descended from, folks who had their land and businesses seized during the revolution are holding grudges They should've learned from the French making sure there's nobody left to hold a grudge.

Killing people who did nothing wrong always puts you on the right side.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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It's interesting reading the opinions in the comments on this thread. As a non-US person, I don't have a strong opinion on Cuba. I'd like to visit someday but don't know much about it other than the headlines. Reading the comments here it sounds like a pariah state on the level of North Korea. With 1m people leaving in a year, it clearly has its issues - but lots of the comments here are a good example of how your co…

I visited Cuba several times between approximately 2005 and 2015.

The Cuban people I met were lovely and would give you the shirt off their back if you needed it, even though they might not possess many more of them.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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I really want people to understand that a sterile term like "economic sanctions" really means "starving them to death". It's not just food. It's the infrastructure necessary to grow food and to have clean drinking water. It's basic medicines, life-saving stuff. What we, as a country, have done and continue to do to Cuba is absolutely unconscionable. It affects us too. Over the last 60+ years there have hundreds of th…

> Importing fascist or fascist adjacent people who ultimately became voters has changed US politics where Florida is now a safely red state. And on the flip side, importing Central and South Americans who are socialist or socialist adjacent and ultimately become voters has changed US politics where California and other states are now safely blue. > I find it interesting how this aspect of immigration is so often miss…

South and Central Americans fall back to their catholic roots, rejecting the communism of their home country within two generations.
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