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Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by ziddoap »

Arcanum-XIII wrote: post #187
ziddoap wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Very difficult" is a bit of an exaggeration. Don't connect to the internet, press 1 hotkey and enter 1 line of text ("OOBE\bypassnro"). While it's absolutely stupid that it needs to be done at all, it's not "very difficult".

I don't need to that on macos. Or Linux. Or whatever the fuck I want to use. I don't need to disconnect from my network either. It just "work".

Did you miss this part of my comment?

>While it's absolutely stupid that it needs to be done at all

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by kyboren »

blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #137
slavik81 wrote: post #75

Tech companies in general seem to struggle with consent. Even when they bother to ask, they often refuse to take "no" for an answer, only offering "maybe later."

> Tech companies in general seem to struggle with consent. This is why Louis Rossman started describing these behaviors as a “rapist mentality” of tech companies. It’s a violation of consent, an exploitation of their anti-competitive size (yes just their size is inherently a problem that distorts the market).

These tech companies have gotten very comfortable pimping out their users to advertisers. They already believe they own your ass; if they perceive some benefit to it, why would they not just rape users directly?

And whatcha gonna do about it? Run to one of the 2 or 3 other pimps who treat their bitches with equal contempt?

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by dan-robertson »

pseudalopex wrote: post #151
dan-robertson wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, the person who caused windows to behave this way surely had some justification, even if it was self-serving. I think a choice would be better but I also think that being on is a reasonable default for users. I don’t understand the point about users explicitly opting out (and that being switched?). I would chalk such a thing down to the kind of big company systematic nefariousness you get (no one needs to say…

They had a motive. Not justification.

Having external backups set up correctly is pretty good for users, and I think that would justify trying to make it more of a default. This seems pretty obvious to me, but I expect if Microsoft did surveys they would find people complaining about how terrible losing a document or disk was for them in the past. I don’t know what ‘explicitly chosen not to use it’ means, but I think you or I would probably consider such an action to be more deliberate than the average user doing that (guess: trying to get rid of notification or reduce steps in install or just randomly clicking through screens is reasonably likely).

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by squarefoot »

chx wrote: post #165
suby wrote: post #101

This happened to me. I was wondering why my internet speeds were slow when I discovered that Microsoft was in the process of uploading my users directory, they had already uploaded almost two gigs when I realized. They also changed the path to these directories to something like C:\Users\name\OneDrive\Desktop\. Another poster in this thread claimed it's easy to reverse -- I disagree, it's a pain in the ass to track d…

> Microsoft has built up good will through efforts like VS Code That's the Trojan Horse https://ghuntley.com/fracture/

Don't forget WSL.

Step 1: "Why do I need to run Linux? I already have it in Windows"

Step 2: "Oh, and now this software runs better on WSL or requires WSL to work properly"

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by jart »

suby wrote: post #101

This happened to me. I was wondering why my internet speeds were slow when I discovered that Microsoft was in the process of uploading my users directory, they had already uploaded almost two gigs when I realized. They also changed the path to these directories to something like C:\Users\name\OneDrive\Desktop\. Another poster in this thread claimed it's easy to reverse -- I disagree, it's a pain in the ass to track d…

It's not possible to reverse. Once you send information to an online service, you should assume it'll become public domain in only a matter of years. Digital information is permanent. Hacks happen. Crypto will be broken. Culture will change. Governments will most likely even pass laws requiring it. That's why tech wants this so bad they're willing to do what I thought only cyber criminals would do ten years ago.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by chx »

massysett wrote: post #186
chx wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I ran Linux as my daily driver 2004-2017 and I regret it. Since then I run Windows 10 + WSL and life is good. Win10 support ends next year and I am at a complete loss at what to do. Linux desktop never worked, never will, the incentives are not there. It's only free if you don't value your time. As I wrote before , your choices are Ubuntu where an OS upgrade shatters your entire system so throughly it takes days…

Go Mac. The GUI is stable and boring: the Finder hasn’t changed much in years. It’s Unix underneath so you can use command-line stuff or dusty programs like Emacs. You can now pick up a MacBook Air at Walmart for $700. Considering the inflation we’ve had, that’s actually reasonable. It will do the Unixy stuff well. My Mac is of this same class and I’m happy with it.

After I moved continents (again) I am now more stable and since I use my 55" 4K TV as my monitor, I decided to make a desktop PC which can game on it -- I went with an 5700X3D CPU with a 7900 XT GPU and 64GB RAM.

I do not think there's anything like it in the Mac world.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by ptdorf »

suby wrote: post #101

This happened to me. I was wondering why my internet speeds were slow when I discovered that Microsoft was in the process of uploading my users directory, they had already uploaded almost two gigs when I realized. They also changed the path to these directories to something like C:\Users\name\OneDrive\Desktop\. Another poster in this thread claimed it's easy to reverse -- I disagree, it's a pain in the ass to track d…

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by Biganon »

Arcanum-XIII wrote: post #187
ziddoap wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Very difficult" is a bit of an exaggeration. Don't connect to the internet, press 1 hotkey and enter 1 line of text ("OOBE\bypassnro"). While it's absolutely stupid that it needs to be done at all, it's not "very difficult".

I don't need to that on macos. Or Linux. Or whatever the fuck I want to use. I don't need to disconnect from my network either. It just "work".

Then vote with your wallet and stop using this piece of shit of a software
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