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FDA denies petition against use of phthalates in food packaging

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Re: FDA denies petition against use of phthalates in food packaging

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Post by hanniabu »

oooyay wrote: post #187
hanniabu wrote: post #69

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Why would LVP be any different?

They aren't made of PVC so they don't contain phthalates

This is what i found when looking it up....

Luxury Vinyl Plank (LVP) flooring is made up of multiple layers of materials, including polyvinyl chloride (PVC), wood composites, and limestone stabilizers:

Backing: A layer of foam, cork, or PVC

Core: A WPC (wood polymer core) or SPC (stone polymer core) core

Vinyl layer: A layer of PVC

Glass fiber: A layer of glass fiber

Print layer: A layer that displays the product's colors and design

Wear layer: A protective layer made of polyurethane that resists scratches and stains

Urethane coating: A protective coating

Re: FDA denies petition against use of phthalates in food packaging

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Post by oooyay »

hanniabu wrote: post #191
oooyay wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They aren't made of PVC so they don't contain phthalates

This is what i found when looking it up.... Luxury Vinyl Plank (LVP) flooring is made up of multiple layers of materials, including polyvinyl chloride (PVC), wood composites, and limestone stabilizers: Backing: A layer of foam, cork, or PVC Core: A WPC (wood polymer core) or SPC (stone polymer core) core Vinyl layer: A layer of PVC Glass fiber: A layer of glass fiber Print layer: A layer that displays the product's c…

Hm, I wonder how that composition varies, but at least off-hand the quantity probably matters. It's the off-gassing and the top coat that get you with flooring.

Re: FDA denies petition against use of phthalates in food packaging

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Post by Aurornis »

balls187 wrote: post #134
Aurornis wrote: post #51

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Unfortunately, questioning sunscreen use has become a popular topic among health communities that obsess over (and misinterpret) studies about chemicals. Even Andrew Huberman, who was held up as the most science-y podcaster before people caught on that he doesn't know what he's talking about on many topics (not to mention, it turns out he's kind of a bad person) made a big deal about sunscreen for a long time. At one…

Not to go off topic--cheating on his girlfriend and being a man-whore is bad behavior, yet I don't think that makes Huberman a bad person.

That's dramatically oversimplifying the situation. He didn't just "cheat on his girlfriend". He was carrying on six simultaneous relationships while misleading at least one of them into thinking they were monogamous and trying to conceive a child with her.

The big article that came out exposed how he had patterns of misleading people, telling people whatever they wanted to hear, abusing therapy speak to manipulate people, and it established a pattern of dishonesty. To reduce that all to "cheating on his girlfriend" is not accurate.

Re: FDA denies petition against use of phthalates in food packaging

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Post by hanniabu »

oooyay wrote: post #192
hanniabu wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what i found when looking it up.... Luxury Vinyl Plank (LVP) flooring is made up of multiple layers of materials, including polyvinyl chloride (PVC), wood composites, and limestone stabilizers: Backing: A layer of foam, cork, or PVC Core: A WPC (wood polymer core) or SPC (stone polymer core) core Vinyl layer: A layer of PVC Glass fiber: A layer of glass fiber Print layer: A layer that displays the product's c…

Hm, I wonder how that composition varies, but at least off-hand the quantity probably matters. It's the off-gassing and the top coat that get you with flooring.

From my understanding the "luxury" part is from the design and texture, but the composition is more or less the same

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Post by rapjr9 »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #149
lifeisstillgood wrote: post #119

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That’s a fascinating thought. Our digital footprints are becoming more telling of our real lives, as more of our lives are mirrored digitally. And in many ways that’s great - not only is booking a flight easier but my eating habits when combined with millions of others can reveal what epidemiology of yesteryear could only dream of But I think this is where the privacy debate falls down - privacy is not real (secrecy…

> what do others do with our information - and I think the best answer is the medical ethics answer - nothing unless it is in the individual’s best interests. How is saving money not in an individual’s best interest? You have person A who chooses to consume known carcinogens and excess carbohydrate, and person B who abstains from them and exercises control for their diet. Why is it ethical for person B to have to sub…

The whole premise of insurance is that a large group shoulders the burden of the few that need to use the insurance. If outcomes can be predicted this whole concept goes away. People would apply for insurance and if they were not denied they'd know they don't need insurance and drop it. Everyone else would be denied or priced out of the market, and that would be the end of the insurance business and nobody would be insured.

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Post by e44858 »

kragen wrote: post #160
e44858 wrote: post #157

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"Boiled" linseed oil is not actually boiled, to save costs they just add metal salts to catalyze the polymerization. You can get linseed oil without the heavy metals, that is actually boiled: https://www.triedandtruewoodfinish.com/products/danish-oil/

danish oil has heavy metal salts in it, specifically salts of cobalt and zirconium: https://www.coo-var.co.uk/files/ww/safety/308-Q271%20-%20DAN... ionic cobalt and ionic zirconium are both of fairly moderate toxicity; they aren't in the same ballpark as things like lead and mercury, but they also aren't as relatively harmless as calcium or zinc i think that normal 'boiled' linseed oil does have stand oil in it, as w…

The one by Tried&True appears to be pure linseed oil: https://s3.gomedia.ws/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2016/03/FB...

Re: FDA denies petition against use of phthalates in food packaging

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Post by balls187 »

Aurornis wrote: post #193
balls187 wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to go off topic--cheating on his girlfriend and being a man-whore is bad behavior, yet I don't think that makes Huberman a bad person.

That's dramatically oversimplifying the situation. He didn't just "cheat on his girlfriend". He was carrying on six simultaneous relationships while misleading at least one of them into thinking they were monogamous and trying to conceive a child with her. The big article that came out exposed how he had patterns of misleading people, telling people whatever they wanted to hear, abusing therapy speak to manipulate pe…

> telling people whatever they wanted to hear, abusing therapy speak to manipulate people, and it established a pattern of dishonesty.

I read that article in NY Mag prior to my comment, and then again after this comment. That wasn't my take-away. Sounded like a guy who got real famous and started to play the field, albeit badly. There was no evidence (that I recall) that Huberman acted this way in previous relationships, and no evidence that he will continue to act this way.

Not great behavior, not going to excuse it, but hardly the behavior I would say makes him a bad person. My opinion is philandering is relatively common behavior for people (men in particular) who achieve a certain level of fame and/or status.

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