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Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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I've been using KeePassXC on Mac and Windows and sync them between each other with Unison[1]. I'd be curious to learn how others who are using KeePassXC are syncing there databases with iPhone. [1] https://gist.github.com/jftuga/0265e5403d56373662b9513d8816e...

Keepass2android and proton drive along with the keepass windows app

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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I wasn’t expecting this much hate towards 1Password in the comments. I was using Google Passwords, then migrated to Apple, finally to 1P7 and now 1P8. It’s one of the best software I’ve ever used and I don’t know what I’d do without it. Same goes for Fastmail as well.

1password has progressively gotten worse every year for the past 5-10. 1password team if you are reading this, please stop making your software worse. Search which was great for years is now terrible and has jumbled results. Some software should just be considered "done" and never changed again. 1Password is one of those things.

1Password has gotten way, way better than it was a few years ago in my opinion. Tons of new features and the redesign a couple years ago was a big improvement.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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post #168

Here's Apple's big problem: it's not a replacement for so many alternatives because it isn't supported on all platforms. Safari? Not on Windows. Apple Music? This actually has a Windows client. I'm not sure how good it is. But Spotify supports Windows and even Linux. Apple Password Manager? Will this be tied to iCloud? Will I be able to use it on Android? If I no longer have an iPhone will it be a pain to maintain an…

If they haven’t already, I won’t be surprised if Apple creates a reasonable password app for Android and Windows specifically to address this concern. Fanning out to other platforms to enable customers to continue using Apple products is a decent strategy that probably does more to retain people within the Apple ecosystem than it does to enable a move away from Apple.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Interesting. Earlier this year I migrated passwords out of 1Password and a few from LastPass and Apple Keychain supported both easily. Just not more complex types of credentials. Every password and website was imported correctly as expected. If not I have yet to notice.

I tried to do the same and failed. The questions were 1) multi-browser support - I use Safari, Chrome, Firefox and Opera - there is a reason for this and I do not want to authorize some of my browsers everyday to serve passwords, 2) ease of use for family with different level of computer/iOS proficiency amongst them. As of now, they are happily running on 1password, but I will be happy to try again this year and next…

On top of that having to open up system preferences to add a new entry was just insane. Hopefully, this new UI into it will lessen that pain.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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A password manager that doesn't have an open-source client cannot be truely checked. Therefore it cannot be trusted to encrypt them before being sent nor to not contain a backdoor.

Apple was part of the PRISM program, we know they gave access to our data for mass spying.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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post #193

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1password has progressively gotten worse every year for the past 5-10. 1password team if you are reading this, please stop making your software worse. Search which was great for years is now terrible and has jumbled results. Some software should just be considered "done" and never changed again. 1Password is one of those things.

1Password has gotten way, way better than it was a few years ago in my opinion. Tons of new features and the redesign a couple years ago was a big improvement.

The electron rewrite was a significant step backwards regardless of features and quality. I cannot wait to ditch 1P.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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post #55

Pointless if it doesnt have cross platform. Apple devices already basically have a password manager, the main reason more people don't use it it is because it doesnt also work on android or windows, not because it's not a standalone app called Passwords.

Hardly. While not everyone is entirely within the Apple eco-system a huge number of people are that go beyond the necessary critical mass. Apple already built this into the OS they just kept it under the clunky Settings UI - so seems like a logical and low-effort move. If the Family Sharing aspects are well done I'd happily say goodbye to my 1Password subscription.

Being in system settings makes sense to me. Having the place to see the same stuff on macOS be Safari’s settings window is the bizarre part.

Regardless, I’ve been using it for years now. Works fine. Better UI will be nice assuming this doesn’t come with a bunch of updates that somehow manage to make it work less-well.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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post #106

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How far out is the phone peripheral?

Sadly, proly not till next year. I'm funding this myself and hardware is hard. Embedding it into a case has a whole lotta mechanical engineering challenges as well. The desktop and tablet version will be released this year though.

I'd be interested in the phone version just for the keyboard. Closest I've seen is https://www.clicks.tech/ but I do not have an iPhone.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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> Pointless if it doesnt have cross platform. As mentioned in another news article on the topic: > It also syncs with PCs via the iCloud for Windows app. * https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/10/24175505/apple-password-a... and in the keynote itself: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXeOiIDNNek&t=59m32s

Last I tried it, iCloud for Windows didn't integrate with Firefox, though.

I would think it would be Firefox which would have to support iCloud for Windows.

If password managers could interfere with password fields in Firefox without its help, malware could do that, too.

Or is there a generic password manager API on Windows that Apple doesn’t implement?

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