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85% of People Want Global Ban on Single-Use Plastics

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Re: 85% of People Want Global Ban on Single-Use Plastics

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The plastic bag ban in Colorado has been awful. I would much rather go back to before.

Why? I haven't used a disposable plastic bag in a decade, and don't miss them in the least. What issue do you have with it?

Those thin supermarket plastic bags were fantastic for disposing of cat waste and litter. You put the waste in the bag, tied it off, and threw it in the outside trash bin. Now, we buy quart food storage bags for disposing of cat waste.

Re: 85% of People Want Global Ban on Single-Use Plastics

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> How many times have you used your last one? Every shopping trip for 4 years now. It tore, but my partner was able to patch it since it's made of pretty good quality fabric.

Have you smelled them? Do you wash them?

I use reusable bags for many years as well, and I wash them every so often. I of course, wash all the produce before using anyway, so a little bit of dirtiness of the bag is negligible.

Re: 85% of People Want Global Ban on Single-Use Plastics

#193
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> Because that's utterly ridiculous and highly inconvenient for nearly everyone that isn't proselytizing about reusable sacks No Here in Aotearoa they are completely normal > Reusable bags are nearly universally unsanitary...place them on the same conveyor belt where you put your vegetables. Golly. Given the habits of growers you really should wash your vegetables before you use them. Pesticides

Pesticides are water soluble. Cat feces is not.

When you wash something you're not dissolving contaminants - you're mechanically removing them. Most bacteria are not water soluble yet we manage to wash them off our hands.

Re: 85% of People Want Global Ban on Single-Use Plastics

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Not just growers, I don't think grocery store employees are washing their hands religiously when they're putting this stuff out.

These days I often see the grocers using gloves when stocking shelves.

Single use plastic gloves?

Re: 85% of People Want Global Ban on Single-Use Plastics

#195
post #119

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> Because that's utterly ridiculous and highly inconvenient for nearly everyone that isn't proselytizing about reusable sacks No Here in Aotearoa they are completely normal > Reusable bags are nearly universally unsanitary...place them on the same conveyor belt where you put your vegetables. Golly. Given the habits of growers you really should wash your vegetables before you use them. Pesticides

Not just growers, I don't think grocery store employees are washing their hands religiously when they're putting this stuff out.

I worked in a supermarket. They aren't washing their hands at all and they might well be playing football with your bread rolls.

Re: 85% of People Want Global Ban on Single-Use Plastics

#196
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I was skeptical of whether it was representative of 85% of the global population, or just the first-world. I've often thought (and heard that) environmental concerns are secondary to economic, and that people in less prosperous countries don't care as much about environmental concerns as people in first-world countries who are secure in most areas of their lives. Surprisingly, this data says the opposite! Sample size…

Poorer parts of the world have (typically) much worse problems with litter. Poorer nations typically have no/few refuse collection services, and people often just pile up and burn their own refuse or dump it in rivers to take it away. That means poorer people see directly the litter rather than an 'out of sight, out of mind' approach.

Poorer parts of the world also purchase a LOT more products packaged in single use packaging than industrialized countries. In the Philippines, pretty much every consumer product that could be sold in a multi-use jar, tube, or bottle instead comes in a single-use plastic sachet like you would get for ketchup in McDonald's. Laundry detergent, toothpaste, hair products, you name it. When you combine that with a lack of waste collection infrastructure, you end up with the Pasig river full of single-use plastic sachets every time it rains.

Here's a well researched report that dives into a lot of the issues of why these plastics are used. It is a combination of economic and societal factors.

https://www.no-burn.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Sachet-Ec...

And here's a article that names and shames which companies produce most of the single use plastic waste found in the Philippines.

https://www.rappler.com/environment/findings-philippines-pla...

https://www.newsecuritybeat.org/2020/09/turning-tap-plastic-...

Re: 85% of People Want Global Ban on Single-Use Plastics

#198
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Crap. Most of the substitutes have a bigger ecological footprint, even if you don't care at all about cost and comfort. Those reusable shopping bags need to be actually reused , several dozen if not hundreds of times, to be ecological. How many times have you used your last one?

This argument is so absurd. I have reused my reusable bags more times than I can possibly count. It's really not hard or unrealistic. How does everyone else seem to have such a hard time with this?

To pile on here. I reuse my reusable bags hundreds if not thousands of times. I purchased a set of high quality bags that stuff into a small bag. They are better in all ways than any other bags I've used. The ergonomics are excellent.

Re: 85% of People Want Global Ban on Single-Use Plastics

#199
post #64

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Why? I haven't used a disposable plastic bag in a decade, and don't miss them in the least. What issue do you have with it?

Those thin supermarket plastic bags were fantastic for disposing of cat waste and litter. You put the waste in the bag, tied it off, and threw it in the outside trash bin. Now, we buy quart food storage bags for disposing of cat waste.

What? No! They were TERRIBLE for cat litter because they frequently had holes in the bottom from the manufacturing process, and would dribble used litter all over your floor. We use the allegedly-biodegradable (but probably not) dog poop bags, at a grand cost of around 2 cents per each.

Re: 85% of People Want Global Ban on Single-Use Plastics

#200
You don't need to wait for a ban. There is a company that sells wonderful cherry tomatoes. They sell them in an elaborate non-reusable plastic container. It keeps the product from being damaged and it presents the product well. However I cannot justify throwing a large plastic container in the landfill so I can have a dozen cherry tomatoes. So I don't purchase them anymore. I wrote to the company letting them know the situation (I haven't heard back). We can make choices in our day-to-day lives to reduce plastic. Let the levers of the market pressure producers.
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