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Sam Altman is showing us who he really is

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Altman would have us believe it's all just an innocent misunderstanding but without actually saying so: "We cast the voice actor behind Sky’s voice before any outreach to Ms. Johansson." Is he trying to suggest the company did not try to make the voice sound like her without her permission? The statement sounds like it's written by a lawyer to be technically true while implying something that is actually false. These…

Jim Carrey made his career by impersonating celebrity voices. So did Rich Little.

When Jim Carrey is impersonating, it's clear that it's Jim Carrey impersonating someone for comedy-sake, not providing a service in lieu of someone else. In other words, Jim Carrey isn't getting paid to stand in for Jack Nicholson for example. Otherwise, it looks more like the Midler vs Ford Motor Co. case[1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co.

Re: Sam Altman is showing us who he really is

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Is something going on with the HN ratings for this submission? It was ranked #1 a few minutes ago, and now below 20. It's 190 points posted You can watch this submission sink in realtime by refreshing; it's amazing almost. See a live screengrab here: https://imgur.com/a/E3fOEvF everything with this submissions point / time ratio is ranked way higher.

30 minutes after posting: #2 with 140 points and 79 comments

https://imgur.com/a/MwsnQIH

40 minutes after posting: #17 with 171 points and 120 comments

https://imgur.com/a/YEyuKP5

50 minutes after posting: no longer on the front page with 207 points and 169 comments

"Amazing" isn't the word for it.

Re: Sam Altman is showing us who he really is

#193
post #93

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In back to the future II, Crispin Glover didn’t sign up to be George McFly so they used facial prosthetics and impersonation to continue the George McFly character. He sued Universal, and reportedly settled for $760,000. Example article on the topic - https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/bac...

While not defending OpenAI or Altman, the caveat here is that this was a voice actor using their natural voice, not an actor impersonating scarlett johansson. Setting a precedent that if your natural voice sounds similar to a more famous actor precludes you from work would be a terrible precedent to set.

I think it would be more like "precludes you from work (arguably) deceptively impersonating the more famous actor."

Re: Sam Altman is showing us who he really is

#194

Is something going on with the HN ratings for this submission? It was ranked #1 a few minutes ago, and now below 20. It's 190 points posted You can watch this submission sink in realtime by refreshing; it's amazing almost. See a live screengrab here: https://imgur.com/a/E3fOEvF everything with this submissions point / time ratio is ranked way higher.

30 minutes after posting: #2 with 140 points and 79 comments https://imgur.com/a/MwsnQIH 40 minutes after posting: #17 with 171 points and 120 comments https://imgur.com/a/YEyuKP5 50 minutes after posting: no longer on the front page with 207 points and 169 comments "Amazing" isn't the word for it.

Agreed, I mean "incredible" and not in the good way. Someone needs to take this to Twitter / X or another platform that isn't insider controlled.

Re: Sam Altman is showing us who he really is

#195
post #87

It seems to me that the tech money people and executives have become nuts in the past few years. This, the YIMBY (really YIYBY, NIMBY) movement, /e/acc, the VCs going to war with San Francisco politicians (including the drunken threats from the current head of YC). Never mind China, Europe seems to have had enough and even DC is having enough on some level. Not sure when this started, didn't seem to be at this level…

YIMBY is a very, very broad group of people who just see how bad the housing crisis is and want to fix it, and realize that a big chunk of that fix is legalizing housing that's perfectly normal in much of the world. Don't lump us in with the out of control tech bro culture people like Musk.

Looks like "really YIYBY, NIMBY" was an attempt to narrow it down

Re: Sam Altman is showing us who he really is

#196
post #54

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Steve Jobs was a superficial asshole but was fundamentally a good and ethical person. There's only one major ethical mistake documented in his entire life (being an absentee father while his first daughter was young), which he spent decades making amends for. The people that emulate Steve Jobs poorly are usually real assholes with a long list of ethical mistakes.

> There's only one major ethical mistake documented in his entire life (being an absentee father while his first daughter was young) Jobs lied to Steve Wozniak. Atari gave Jobs $5000 to make Breakout for Atari. He told Wozniak he got $700 so Wozniak took home $350.

There is also the story where early Apple employees didn’t get any stock and Wozniak gave some of his.

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> "Move fast and break things" is explicitly, exactly the wrong attitude for the person/team in charge of a world-changing superpower. Thankfully, they aren't in charge of anything like that.

Arguably, allowing anyone to create very believable lies is a world-changing superpower.

Re: Sam Altman is showing us who he really is

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There are many people with voices similar to Scarlett Johansson's. If SJ is unwilling to be a voice actor for OpenAi, then why should OpenAI not find a similar voice and use that instead? SJ certainly does not have a monopoly on all voices similar to hers. Anyone in possession of such a voice has the same right as SJ to monetize it. And someone did in fact exercise that right. If you compare the Sky voice to SJ's, th…

I encourage you to look through this case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co.

Re: Sam Altman is showing us who he really is

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Steve Jobs was a superficial asshole but was fundamentally a good and ethical person. There's only one major ethical mistake documented in his entire life (being an absentee father while his first daughter was young), which he spent decades making amends for. The people that emulate Steve Jobs poorly are usually real assholes with a long list of ethical mistakes.

> There's only one major ethical mistake documented in his entire life (being an absentee father while his first daughter was young) Jobs lied to Steve Wozniak. Atari gave Jobs $5000 to make Breakout for Atari. He told Wozniak he got $700 so Wozniak took home $350.

Steve Jobs gave Woz half of the base amount, which is what Woz agreed to. Jobs withheld the fact that he was going to receive a bonus on top of the base amount, and did not share any of that money.

Was it an ethical mistake? Sure. He should have at least disclosed that he was receiving the bonus money, even if he didn't want to share it.

But claiming it was a "major ethical mistake" seems fairly out of touch with reality.

And of course, taken in the context of all of the good things they did together, it was completely insignificant and Woz has said as much.

Re: Sam Altman is showing us who he really is

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> "Move fast and break things" is explicitly, exactly the wrong attitude for the person/team in charge of a world-changing superpower. Thankfully, they aren't in charge of anything like that.

How do you know what the effects and importance of current gen AI will be?
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