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Re: Shipbreaking

#191
post #180

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But you know that it's a law to stop people doing something domestically which is exporting a ship. You know this.

Yes, as a best effort to restrict behavior abroad.

dude it's all a casual web.

They're regulating the behavior of their citizens in their domain to prevent them from doing actions that will lead to detrimental outcomes for their citizens.

Re: Shipbreaking

#192

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Your are out to lunch. I'm not sure what you think I'm advocating for or what I'm trying to be manipulative based on my short comment but you need to take a minute and think about how other people come to the conversation and that they don't come with some embedded agenda.

> Those industries don't pay well to anyone involved but are a global benefit. Such a strange world we live in. It's pretty clear that are are trying to manipulate readers through your suggestive use of "strange". You're not actually confused by it - you're trying to suggest something about labor laws or pay or something without actually making a point, through the use of suggestive language. People do not talk like…

Its pretty clear to you because you seem to think the world is black and white and you are very self assured. However I can tell you, whether you believe me or not, that was most certainly not intended or implied (either knowingly or unknowingly). Any way please continue to speak my intentions with your self proclaimed authority.

Re: Shipbreaking

#193
post #173

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Yeah because by now it's all USB. I'm old enough to 'member the times where literally everyone had different plugs and voltages.

Yes, but that standardisation on USB that we have already witnessed came about without any legal mandates, or did it? So it undermines the argument for them.

> Yes, but that standardisation on USB that we have already witnessed came about without any legal mandates, or did it?

The EU said "hey guys, make up your mind on a standard" to the industry at large, which led to the consolidation to Mini-USB and, later on, Micro-USB, and as Apple hadn't even moved an inch towards standardization and USB-C was validated enough to be supporting literally everything, the EU said "okay, Apple doesn't want to listen, so we bring down the hammer".

Re: Shipbreaking

#195

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I'm not in a position to look right now, but I'm pretty sure there's video of this happening out on YouTube. It's pretty fearsome seeing these big vessels coming in under power and crashing into the shore. Tons of inertia.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5kDbwE7mFck I'm sure you mean this one. There are probably others though.

This video gave me chills...

Re: Shipbreaking

#197
post #48

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We could require that ships they dock in EU harbours are owned by countries that are party to some international anti-ship breaking agreement. But it's a lot of paperwork :)

But that might put the EU at an economic disadvantage; it's hubris to believe the rest of the world will bend backwards to meet EU's rules. I mean they do, see cookie banners/GDPR, Apple, etc, but still. I'm of the unsubstantiated opinion that all the laws make the EU a less desireable market. But that's a policy based on morals instead of economics / relentless capitalism.

It's certainly not without risk.

And like I said, it's a lot of paperwork.

Maybe, one day, or maybe in small increments.

Re: Shipbreaking

#198
post #67
post #48

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We could require that ships they dock in EU harbours are owned by countries that are party to some international anti-ship breaking agreement. But it's a lot of paperwork :)

Like the Jones Act [0], it's easy to create unintended consequences. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchant_Marine_Act_of_1920#...

That's a good point, or you could make a new cookie law.

Or kill all the logistics companies in the EU.

Re: Shipbreaking

#199
post #173

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Yes, but that standardisation on USB that we have already witnessed came about without any legal mandates, or did it? So it undermines the argument for them.

> Yes, but that standardisation on USB that we have already witnessed came about without any legal mandates, or did it? The EU said "hey guys, make up your mind on a standard" to the industry at large, which led to the consolidation to Mini-USB and, later on, Micro-USB, and as Apple hadn't even moved an inch towards standardization and USB-C was validated enough to be supporting literally everything, the EU said "oka…

And I'm suggesting that bringing down the hammer was unnecessary overreach.

Re: Shipbreaking

#200
post #151

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I literally didnt define it as good. Maybe read again. I said it isnt good or bad, its nature, its what it is. Ironic that while explaining why using "bad" to qualify nature is not appropriate you think im saying its good.

i'm sorry that you don't have the patience to read a wikipedia article > Some people use the phrase, naturalistic fallacy or appeal to nature, in a different sense, to characterize inferences of the form "Something is natural; therefore, it is morally acceptable"

Again, it is what it is, there's no moral attachment to my comment. I give up, you just want me to be wrong. It's just frustrating you don't recognize that was the argument I was making.
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