To quote Twitter/X, "I wonder what OpenAI will release tomorrow and Google will release a waitlist for." GPT-4o: out Veo: waitlist Admittedly this is impressive and the direct comp would be Sora, which isn't out, but sometimes the caricature is very close to the truth.
This is Google for the last 5+ IOs. They just release waitlists and demos that are leapfrogged by the time they're available to all. (and shut down a few years later)
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The person now in charge of Search is Elizabeth Hamon Reid, a long-time googler who came up through the ranks from engineer (in Google Maps) to VP over 20 years. She's legit.
Is Wikipedia out of date then? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prabhakar_Raghavan
Nonetheless, she was a good engineer and a good manager, back when we crossed path many moons ago.
https://searchengineland.com/liz-reid-google-new-head-of-sea...
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#193I hate to be so cynical, but I'm dreading the inevitable flood of AI generated video spam. We really are about this close to infinite jest. Imagine TikTok's algorithm with on demand video generation to suit your exact tastes. It may erase the social aspect, but for many users I doubt that would matter too much. "Lurking" into oblivion.
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#195The amount of negativity in these comments is astounding. Congrats to the teams at Google on what they have built, and hoping for more competition and progress in this space.
We have to take account that this community (good chunk have stakes in YC and a lot to gain from secondary shares in OpenAI) and platform is going to favor its own and be aware that Sam Altman is the golden boy of YC's founder after all. So of course you are going to see snarky comments and straight up denial in the competition. We saw that yesterday in the comments with the release of GPT4o in anticipation of Gemini…
I don’t know if there is a sentiment analysis tool for HN, but I’m pretty sure it’s been dead negative for Altman since at least Worldcoin.
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#196The amount of negativity in these comments is astounding. Congrats to the teams at Google on what they have built, and hoping for more competition and progress in this space.
You have to give Google credit as they went against the OpenAI fanatics, Google doomsday crowd and some of the permanent critics (who won't disclose they invested in OpenAI's secondary share sale) that believe that Google can't keep up. In fact, they already did. What OpenAI announced was nothing that Google could not do already. The top comments around Sora vs Veo suggesting that Google was falling behind, given the…
Where did SORA get all its training videos from again and why won't the executives answer a simple Yes/No question to "Did you scrape Youtube to train SORA?"
Google attorneys want to know.
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What do you mean? Everyone has access to the gpt-4o model right now through ChatGPT and the API. Sure we don't have voice-to-voice but we have a lot more than what Google has promised.
It is not available on my (free) account in either the app or the website. So no, everyone does not have access to it.
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#198To quote Twitter/X, "I wonder what OpenAI will release tomorrow and Google will release a waitlist for." GPT-4o: out Veo: waitlist Admittedly this is impressive and the direct comp would be Sora, which isn't out, but sometimes the caricature is very close to the truth.
I don't know what's wrong with GPT-4o, but the answers I'm getting are much worse than before yesterday. It's constantly repeating the entire content required to provide a seemingly "full" answer, but if it passes me the same but slightly modified Python code for the fifth time even if it has become irrelevant to the current conversation, it really gets on my nerves.
I had so well tuned custom instructions which worked beautifully and now it's as if it is ignoring most of them.
It's causing me frustration and really wasting my time when I have to wait for the unnecessary long answers to finish.
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> Not nearly as impressive as Sora. Sora was impressive because the clips were long and had lots of rapid movement The most impressive Sora demo was heavily edited. https://www.fxguide.com/fxfeatured/actually-using-sora/
Interesting to see that OpenAI was successful in creating their own reality distortion spells, just like Apple's reality distortion field which has fooled many of these commenters here. It's quite early to race to the conclusion that one is better than the other when not only they are both unreleased, but especially when the demos can be edited, faked or altered to look great for optics and distortion. EDIT: It appea…
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Obligatory: Liam Neeson jumps over a fence in 6 seconds, with 14 cuts[1]. 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCKhktcbfQM
I'd like to fact check this amazing comment on that video, but it would require watching Taken 3: > Some of y'all may find how awful this editing gets pretty interesting: I did an Average Shot Length (ASL) for many movies for a recent project, and just to illustrate bad overediting in action movies, I looked at Taken 3 (2014) in its extended cut. > The longest shot in the movie is the last shot, an aerial shot of a p…