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That you've "lived in sweden" implies you have the luxury of hopping to whatever country suits you most. Nobody wants to hear a cosmopolitan's take on how we have too much privacy and how the government should be more involved in our lives. If the government mistreats you, you can just go to a nicer country.

Around 500 million people living in the EU have that privilege. It’s pretty common for people to exercise it and in no way makes you part of the jet set.

I see. I'm probably wrong then. In my country only the rich or elite have the opportunity to live abroad.

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It's not a secret if your company uses any of the large payroll services due the Equifax "The Work Number".

Don't you need to specifically authorize someone to use that to get your salary?

Not if that someone is Equifax itself or any of its hackers.

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It’s amazing that 54% of adults in the United States have a literacy below 6th grade level, but it is expected for the same population to have the financial literacy to file their taxes accurately. Going further, the IRS already knows the details of most people’s taxes before they file, yet everyone is expected to complete what amounts to a complex task for many people. I cannot fathom why it is still done this way.

I guess it was originally done this way because in the past people actually had some semblance of privacy and the government didn't actually know a great deal about people's income. Eventually, privacy was eroded away year after year to the point where the government now knows an extreme amount about each citizen. I guess I'd refrain the question - instead of asking why do we need to do taxes when the government know…

You are more than welcome to go off grid and enjoy your privacy.

Re: Claiming high user satisfaction, IRS will decide on renewing free tax site

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let me copy a comment i had in another article:

did you ever try to use any USA federal service? (veteran benefits, free tax filing, ssn, etc). you're required an id.me account.

what's that? well some anonymous group saw login.gov, realized the value of the data, and lobbied that it should be open to free capital markets to explore, not the government!

so now if you want to even talk to the irs or veteran service, you need to go to that privately owned id.me site, do a video call, scan all the documents they ask for (even ones without visible anti counterfeit mechanics like your typewritter filled ssn card).

and the best part? right after you create your account, you land on a coupon clipping page that is a facsimile of the garbage pamphlet the usps is forced to shove daily in yout physical mailbox! and among the links on that page are links to Whitepapers about how advertisers can benefit from buying user data from them because it includes gov affiliation like vetetan, taxpayer, etc and bank information!

Re: Claiming high user satisfaction, IRS will decide on renewing free tax site

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post #160

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I hope you realize that these federal agencies are funded through revenue collection - i.e tax code. Unfortunately, Your simplification isn't really a simplification.

Yes, the purpose of the IRS is revenue collection via federal income tax for funding the government with. Said funding can then be given to the agencies and organizations I mentioned in my previous comment. Simplified tax code means less tax money is spent on administration overhead of the IRS itself and more money that can go to programs like WIC, SNAP, TANF, and other targeted programs that are more effective aid t…

Okay that is fair, you'd reduce administrative and enforcement costs if the tax code was simplified, but creating and managing new programs would also lead to extra overheard. I suppose to ground these arguments we'd need to discuss numbers, but its hard to generate data on this w/o specifics.

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It depends on if your yearly payments to them exceed some threshold. There may be more to it than that, of course. Don’t listen to me, I’m the idiot who couldn’t figure it out.

Per care.com[1], the threshold is $2700 per year: For all intents and purposes, a babysitter is looked at just like a nanny in that if they must adhere to the schedule you set and come to your home to take care of your kids based on the rules you set, the IRS will most likely view this as an employment relationship. And taxes can sneak up on you quickly. If the babysitter earns just $15 per hour and works even 10 hou…

I have a housekeeper who only comes in once a month and (I learn) is fairly inexpensive though it doesn’t seem that way. Weekly it would be way over the threshold. I assume my lawn guy whose basic work is under that threshold —and has a business—doesn’t count either although he does other jobs as well for me and others. But that’s true of contractors generally. So I assume one just does what most people do in common situations.

And at some point you just pay cash.

Re: Claiming high user satisfaction, IRS will decide on renewing free tax site

#197

let me copy a comment i had in another article: did you ever try to use any USA federal service? (veteran benefits, free tax filing, ssn, etc). you're required an id.me account. what's that? well some anonymous group saw login.gov, realized the value of the data, and lobbied that it should be open to free capital markets to explore, not the government! so now if you want to even talk to the irs or veteran service, yo…

my point being, after you've already filtered anyone with a brain and means to avoid that (i paid intuit even qualifying for free filling, and a lawyer to deal with veteran stuff in person), of course you will get high marks on a survey.

i bet Stalin also had good approval after the purge

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#198
post #34

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They're probably right about that?

i'm not saying that they're wrong. i'm just saying that's a lot of the logic. it is pretty cynical to say "i don't want to make people's lives easier so they better align with my political goals"

Not entirely fair to them. Many politicians oppose simple taxes simply because they are on Intuit's "payroll".

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There never was a point in the period of time when people filed taxes in the US that the government wasn’t entitled to know your salary. It used to take more time and effort to get the info, but better technology doesn’t change the game, it highlights that it wasn’t a « shared secret ». Your employer has a ton of paperwork to file related to your pay.

Did you not just explain how the game changed from technology in your own post? Before all of this unconstitutional collection of Americans information the government had to have a target and go out and collect and tabulate the information. Now it’s a select where citizen does thing x over y threshold. How is this not changing the game?

The government having this information predated electronic systems. In 1935! when Social Security came into existence companies needed to pay a portion of their employees income directly to the federal government. IRS didn’t get computers until the 1960’s.

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post #171

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Just a minor comment, but: why does EITC exist? Just a hidden welfare payment? That out if the way, I agree with the earlier comment: why does the government automatically know all your financial details? Where is the privacy? Where is the requirement for a warrant, to access your private information?

Hilarious that the government makes some of us think that portion of someone's money returned to that person is a "welfare payment"

Actually (refundable) EITC is often literally a welfare payment. Depending on income and family status, you may get back 100% of the tax you paid not counting EITC, then EITC is just a straight cash payment on top.
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