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German state ditches Microsoft for Linux and LibreOffice

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Re: German state ditches Microsoft for Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by to11mtm »

briHass wrote: post #117
holografix wrote: post #21

Very hard for me to understand why, in a world of Google docs, anyone would want to deal with the bloated mess that is ms office. I was helping an elderly relative who works as a translator and hasn’t touched a modern version of word in about 5 years. They had a new computer and I got an ms office sub for them. The poor person re-did about 4 hours of their work 3x because they couldn’t find the file MS Word had guara…

People always forget about Outlook. Name me a competing desktop app that does integrated calendar, email, todo, and meetings as well as Outlook. Thunderbird is (unfortunately) a joke, and web clients aren't as nice when managing complex folder arrangements and lots of mail.

Ironically, we used thunderbird at at old job, because it was easy to screenshot for QAs instructions on how to check both the HTML and Text versions of sent emails.

Re: German state ditches Microsoft for Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by tw04 »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #164

I can remember the same or very similar news from Germany appearing every now and then for over a decade. This time I almost believe them as there seems to be no alternative to LibreOffice given the changes Microsoft introduced during the recent years - forcing everyone to log-in with their Microsoft account at best, also moving from a classic desktop app to a web app. Conservative users like me and probably German s…

Probably because it’s misrepresented every single time. The headline is “Germany is moving to X” and then you click the link and it turns out it’s a single state.

This is the equivalent of “South Dakota is ditching Microsoft”. It’s 30k users which isn’t nothing, but it is VERY different from the German federal government moving away from MS.

Re: German state ditches Microsoft for Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by jsmith12673 »

holografix wrote: post #21

Very hard for me to understand why, in a world of Google docs, anyone would want to deal with the bloated mess that is ms office. I was helping an elderly relative who works as a translator and hasn’t touched a modern version of word in about 5 years. They had a new computer and I got an ms office sub for them. The poor person re-did about 4 hours of their work 3x because they couldn’t find the file MS Word had guara…

I've had to use Google Sheets a lot recently, and it doesn't hold a candle to excel. There are a lot of basics missing esp. when it comes to charting.

But I don't like excel much either. If working with spreadsheets was a bigger part of my day job, I'd switch to excel

Re: German state ditches Microsoft for Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by saalweachter »

wannacboatmovie wrote: post #118
holografix wrote: post #21

Very hard for me to understand why, in a world of Google docs, anyone would want to deal with the bloated mess that is ms office. I was helping an elderly relative who works as a translator and hasn’t touched a modern version of word in about 5 years. They had a new computer and I got an ms office sub for them. The poor person re-did about 4 hours of their work 3x because they couldn’t find the file MS Word had guara…

Among other things, Office comes with support, a word most Googlers can't spell.

Is the suopprt first or third party?

Re: German state ditches Microsoft for Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by midnight2 »

holografix wrote: post #21

Very hard for me to understand why, in a world of Google docs, anyone would want to deal with the bloated mess that is ms office. I was helping an elderly relative who works as a translator and hasn’t touched a modern version of word in about 5 years. They had a new computer and I got an ms office sub for them. The poor person re-did about 4 hours of their work 3x because they couldn’t find the file MS Word had guara…

Excel blows Sheets out of the water. Try opening a million row CSV in Sheets.

Re: German state ditches Microsoft for Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by jrmcauliffe »

shiroiushi wrote: post #186
Difwif wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So many microcosms with tech. I'm always reminded here on HN how terrible Office is and why we don't just use Google Docs. I hold this same opinion personally. However I go to other communities (I think the last one I remember was some startup subreddit) and GSuite is being mocked and everyone is recommending Office and Teams as the obvious choice for starting your business. I assume it's just that we prefer the devi…

>and GSuite is being mocked and everyone is recommending Office and Teams as the obvious choice for starting your business. These must be paid shills. While it's actually quite understandable why real people and businesses would want to use and recommend MS Office, no one in their right mind actually thinks Teams is the best video chat tool in the world. Any serious business uses Zoom, Slack, etc.

Lol any serious business. Shoutout to all the people at mega-corps using Teams!

Re: German state ditches Microsoft for Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by ByQuyzzy »

holografix wrote: post #21

Very hard for me to understand why, in a world of Google docs, anyone would want to deal with the bloated mess that is ms office. I was helping an elderly relative who works as a translator and hasn’t touched a modern version of word in about 5 years. They had a new computer and I got an ms office sub for them. The poor person re-did about 4 hours of their work 3x because they couldn’t find the file MS Word had guara…

Google Docs is just flat out terrible. It's also highly insecure - imagine trusting an ad company with your governmental information.

Re: German state ditches Microsoft for Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by Ziggy_Zaggy »

I have no idea why ppl don't use tools like LibreOffice and OpenOffice over MS Office and the other cloud (joke) products.

If you're working on a file in the cloud instead of a local file then you probably should've already written/bought your own locally hosted server product instead.

OpenOffice Calc (and similar products) are a staple for ppl who need applications that work without all the "c-suite needs their bonus" silliness.

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