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Re: Glassdoor updated my profile to add my real name and location

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Post by shon »

latentcall wrote: post #176
sli wrote: post #65

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I will never understand how people can willingly build tools like this that almost exclusively serve to make employment miserable.

Amazing what people are willing to trade in exchange for a fat salary with decent benefits. Even if it means trading their moral code.

Really? You think this is that bad?

I always said “at least we’re not building weapons we are trying to get people jobs (or keep them in jobs)”

But aside from weapons, if you think building a retention tool for HR is bad, you certainly should not ever look at AdTech or the types of things insurance companies are doing from a data perspective.

Or ah hem… Palatir for example.

Re: Glassdoor updated my profile to add my real name and location

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Post by aftbit »

ecshafer wrote: post #137
duxup wrote: post #123

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It does sometimes feel like we're missing out on these "reasonable company with reasonable expectations" type businesses and funding and crashing a ton of companies that would otherwise maybe live on reasonably?

What is the line from The Social Network? "Its not cool to be a millionaire, its cool to be a billionaire" or something along those lines. I think a lot of people aren't happy with being just very wealthy I suppose.

I dunno, I think it's pretty cool to be either a millionaire or a billionaire. That's probably why I'm not either.

Re: Glassdoor updated my profile to add my real name and location

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Post by dml2135 »

lp0_on_fire wrote: post #133
xyzelement wrote: post #90

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I think there's an explanation that is both more charitable and more pragmatic. Companies try to keep employees happy and committed, and part of that is making sure they see a potential future / growth for themselves. As a manager I try to both make sure this is based in reality and that employees are picking up the message. I like to think I am good at this but it's a difficult skill, and external signal to "hey, yo…

IMO a company that would rely on this kind of invasive surveillance is not really interested in the well being of their employees. There are far better and less invasive ways to evaluate employee satisfaction and fulfillment than hiring an outside organization to "dig up dirt", for the lack of a better term. To me it's no different than a company hiring a PI to follow me around so they can report back how many drinks…

> Banks/Credit card companies selling my purchase history?

As far as I am aware, almost every credit card company already does this. They tell you they are doing it too.

Re: Glassdoor updated my profile to add my real name and location

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Post by [deleted] »

tomrod wrote: post #69
zug_zug wrote: post #10

If anybody doesn't think this is a problem, I overheard managers talking about a 3rd-party tool that finds "at risk employees" which they didn't define but said it included signals such as "they updated their linked in recently" as a signal that they may be on the job hunt. You better believe that data brokers are both interested in buying and selling any sort of information around your employment/job/interview behav…

Let them squirm. Get your teammates to update to and keep management nervous and focused on improving the employee's lives. Take it even to starting a union if needed. You don't give your time to an employer, you trade it, and in our modern society we have a gap in the market power of labor. Only way to get it is to reclaim it.

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Re: Glassdoor updated my profile to add my real name and location

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Post by swozey »

ryanjshaw wrote: post #186
swozey wrote: post #181

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It's by no means a limiting factor if they don't have one, but when I'm interviewing for mid - staff+ level engineers in my specific field I absolutely love when they have some sort of project portfolio I can look at. Github, Gitlab, medium, whatever. I learn so little from a persons bullet pointed resume that when I don't have those the interviews feel like I'm pretty much walking in completely ignorant to this pers…

People often have reasons outside of their control for being anonymous. Others have employment contracts that limit what outside business interests they can be involved in, including open source. That being said, I've been on HN for 2 years longer than you, 2/3rds the karma, and zero job offers so what do I know.

I wasn't aware of any of this! Outrageous!

All kidding aside I totally get it. I was lucky and taken under under the wing of a very generous group of people who have pretty much followed one another around to various jobs/projects over the last decade and our skills have just grown non-stop. I WISH I'd gotten into FOSS projects way sooner, like when I was a kid instead of just learning linux and crawling up the sysadmin route.

Like, junior help desk tech support to principal architects nowadays, etc. I try to get my friends who want to level up or change careers to hop into foss projects, #goodfirstissue sort of things. A lot of people just have no idea where to start, and they don't think they're skilled enough to join a project like kubernetes or what not, but those projects actually have Contributor Experience people/teams to help bring new people in comfortably and they need all sorts of help, not just go developers, etc.

Hell, those contributor experience people are absolute diamonds and really make certain communities so inclusive and great to be in. There is a lot of cool ancillary work to be done and everyone has something in their wheelhouse they can contribute.

https://goodfirstissue.dev/

Re: Glassdoor updated my profile to add my real name and location

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Post by sterlind »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #158
digitalsushi wrote: post #114

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stances and postures sound like policies that are not written

Nah, it’s written. It’s an iOS app, and Apple requires a well-written policy. Also, I have gotten used to doing things this way. I’ve been writing software for this particular demographic, for over 20 years.

I'm incredibly curious about what this demographic is.

Re: Glassdoor updated my profile to add my real name and location

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Post by shon »

generalizations wrote: post #172
shon wrote: post #122

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It’s worse and deeper than you’d want to know. That said most HR Tech companies and large corporate HR departments are incompetent so it’s not really as scary in practice as it sounds. Also GDPR/CCPA has hamstrung a lot of this and HR depts are fairly petrified about it. Talent Acquisition, not so much…

Wait, how much worse, and how much deeper? Unless that kind of stuff is a trade secret.

Sorry, I’m being a little dramatic.

I mean the data part is a little scary. Look up People Data Labs. There are lots of these data aggregators and that data can be used for a lot of scary things. HR in practice is probably the least scary.

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Post by 23B1 »

shon wrote: post #113
sli wrote: post #65

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I will never understand how people can willingly build tools like this that almost exclusively serve to make employment miserable.

Originally it was built as the inverse. A signal that recruiters could use to tell them which “passive candidates” could be more willing to change jobs. A customer asked if it could be used internally (we already had their ATS/HRIS data) so a new feature was born. Yes money was a motive but this particular feature didn’t seem like an evil idea to be used to increase employee misery. That said, We did build some thing…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive

Re: Glassdoor updated my profile to add my real name and location

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Post by jstarfish »

zug_zug wrote: post #10

If anybody doesn't think this is a problem, I overheard managers talking about a 3rd-party tool that finds "at risk employees" which they didn't define but said it included signals such as "they updated their linked in recently" as a signal that they may be on the job hunt. You better believe that data brokers are both interested in buying and selling any sort of information around your employment/job/interview behav…

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Re: Glassdoor updated my profile to add my real name and location

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Post by mattrighetti »

brezelgoring wrote: post #35
fredley wrote: post #3

Aren't Glassdoor's reviews pretty much a scam anyway? Last I heard companies can pay $$ to gain moderation control over their own profile to delete/downrank bad reviews.

I know of two multinational conglomerates (one Indian, the other Argentinian) that requires all newcomers to post a GlassDoor review and a LinkedIn post praising the company, the onboarding gifts, and such things. Both are absolute hell to work for unless you're upper management, according to acquaintances that have been there and climbed outside the bog of low-level positions. It's not a lot, but it's weird it happe…

I’ve never flexed my new positions or anything like that, which seems to be widespread nowadays to seek validation on social media.

I’ll never make a post about a company even if I end up loving my time there, it’s just not going to happen. It looks fake and everyone knows that.

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