Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

cpj.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

191–200 of 968 posts

Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

#191

Post by hersko »

ivan_gammel wrote: post #160
jiggawatts wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re being unfairly downvoted. The word genocide has been overused in this conflict. Genocide means an intent to erase a people, which is a hard point to argue when Gaza’s population has doubled in the last two decades under this supposed “erasure”.

Regardless of definition of genocide, how population growth in Gaza in the past is related to systematic murdering of civilians we observe now?

> systematic murdering of civilians

If Israel wanted to systematically murder civilians there would be a lot more dead.

What you are seeing is the result of a terrorist organization hiding among civilians (human shields) while waging a war dressed as civilians (a war crime).

Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

#193

Post by hmcq6 »

nsguy wrote: post #176
hmcq6 wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say that Israel has never ordered an evacuation. I pushed back on the commenter who stated that finding a militant in a hospital or school makes it a valid target. > From my observation Well from Human Rights Watches observation: > Human Rights Watch has not been able to corroborate them, nor seen any information that would justify attacks on Gaza hospitals. When a journalist at a news conference showing vid…

"Rule 28. Medical units exclusively assigned to medical purposes must be respected and protected in all circumstances. They lose their protection if they are being used, outside their humanitarian function, to commit acts harmful to the enemy." We've seen some evidence that hospitals are used outside their humanitarian function. It's true that even if the hospital loses it's protection that does not mean that it's ok…

> [It] Doesn't make sense

It does when your enemy is Amalek.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/01/south-africa-is...

Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

#194

Post by JumpCrisscross »

basilgohar wrote: post #174
tety wrote: post #123

[flagged]

The sheer amount of times that Israel's [1] lies [2] have been exposed [3] again and again [4], in the current conflict and from before, leads to the only conclusion that IOF's claims that benefit their narrative must be assumed false until proven true by independent investigation. Their own investigations frequently prove their own initial claims are false. Moreover, "murky definition of a journalist" is a weasel wo…

Do you have a refutation of the specific claim regarding Al Jazeera journalists doubling as Hamas agents?

Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

#196

Post by JumpCrisscross »

myth_drannon wrote: post #183
anthony__j wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i've yet to see reporting on this that is not sourced directly from the IDF - who are accusing dead men based on "intel" that they've found after a bombing

[flagged]

Al Jazeera has been closer to neutral than not, avoiding, for example, overly emotional language or calling everything a genocide.

Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

#197

Post by hersko »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #164
hersko wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would apply if HN was not actively moderated...

It's not that actively moderated. dang uses a pretty light hand here.

That's not true at all. Try posting an overtly political article and it will be blocked.

But maybe i'm wrong? I posted this[1], let's see what happens.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39622270

Edit: as expected, it was flagged, which I am not complaining about. I don't want divisive political stories on HN.

My point is that when the occasional political story makes it through to the front page, it almost always has a specific political bent.

Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

#199

Post by ls612 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #194
basilgohar wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sheer amount of times that Israel's [1] lies [2] have been exposed [3] again and again [4], in the current conflict and from before, leads to the only conclusion that IOF's claims that benefit their narrative must be assumed false until proven true by independent investigation. Their own investigations frequently prove their own initial claims are false. Moreover, "murky definition of a journalist" is a weasel wo…

Do you have a refutation of the specific claim regarding Al Jazeera journalists doubling as Hamas agents?

I’d assume not otherwise he’d have linked to it too.

Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

#200

Post by [deleted] »

McNutty wrote: post #37
ciconia wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This platform for tech news should not become a place for political posts, nor even for posting regular news headlines. What's a political post? What's "regular news"? And where do you draw the line? If not interested, you can just move on and ignore. There's plenty of AI articles all over the front page.

What is the appropriate number of times to "just move on and ignore" before finally deciding to say something because the integrity of hn as a platform is at risk?

[deleted]
Post reply on HN