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Heinz’s sustainable ketchup cap

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Re: Heinz’s sustainable ketchup cap

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Sustainability talk being about ketchup caps while rich people fly to climate conferences in their yachts. Weird world.

"We can't do everything, therefore we should do nothing". This kind of thing is just content-free dismissal.

Bad straw man. The ketchup cups are green-washing and its right to call them out as such.

Re: Heinz’s sustainable ketchup cap

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The number is greenwashing because it's including "thermal Recycling" aka burning. https://www.umweltbundesamt.de/daten/ressourcen-abfall/verwe...

How is that even allowed to be called recycling? As in, is it genuinely a term defined legally and, if so, who allowed this to happen? Because burning is most certainly not recycling.

Recycled as fuel. Its not that bad energy-wise. We have power plants running off that stuff.

Re: Heinz’s sustainable ketchup cap

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In the 80s in the UK we had milk delivered every morning in glass bottles by a huge fleet of electric vehicles. The empty bottles were left out, collected by the milkman, sterilised and reused. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_float

And fizzy pop! I dare say every town had one. In Sunderland we had Sykes. They’d come round once a week; you left your old bottles out front and they’d be swapped out for new. I always loved dandelion & burdock. https://www.sunderlandecho.com/heritage-and-retro/retro/sars...

Villa pop FTW!

https://sunderlandglobalmedia.org/made-in-sunderland-the-his...

Re: Heinz’s sustainable ketchup cap

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I tired to do a compost last year but I live near a stream and tons of small flying insects infested the compost bin. It would never get hot enough to compost, ants moved in after the flies left in the spring. My climate is hot during the summer but even compost started wouldn’t help. I have lots of kitchen waste, grass waste, and plenty of brown organic matter I can add that’s around my yard. The bugs love it.

> t would never get hot enough to compost Sounds like too much water content and/or not enough air for aerobic bacteria to get to work. Tossing the pile with a pitchfork somewhat frequently should help it. Unfortunately, compositing when you live with wildlife is a challenge. I don't bother because if the raccoons didn't get into it, the bears would, and both are annoyingly messy when they do. I even had a bear do st…

I have a special compost barrel that was given to me. It has rollers and small holes. Raccoons and other animals are not able to get into it. Bears are not much of a concern.

I’ll try again with more dry leaves. Spring is close to starting in my area.

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That would be 1.2 cubic miles a year uncompressed. Quite a lot but also not that much.

Cubic miles? Strange measurement unit...

I wanted to go with cubic acres ...

https://sundaycomicsdebt.blogspot.com/2015/02/scrooge-math.h...

Re: Heinz’s sustainable ketchup cap

#197

you know what could be sustainable? A bring-your-own bottle policy in stores. Deliver big dispensers to stores, and let people refill. All the rest is a very marginal reduction unlikely to have an effect in the long run. In a complex environment, where we can't make predictions, is better to be cautious.

Stores don't have the space for that currently. Though it may be possible to redesign them in such a way that they do.

Re: Heinz’s sustainable ketchup cap

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I’m willing to bet this has nothing to do with recyclability and everything to do with less expensive manufacturing.

I hope it is less expensive.

Cost savings often benefit sustainability. You probably heard the "reduce, reuse, recycle, in that order" thing. The "reduce" part also reduces costs.

Here it looks like there is one less part (the silicone ring), which I believe makes it cheaper to build, cuts on supplies (no more need for silicone), and improves recyclability, which is good for the image and maybe some regulations. I don't know how good it is at delivering ketchup, but if it is as good or better, then we all win. Granted, it is still disposable plastic, but I don't see why that design would be unsuitable for a reusable bottle.

Exactly the kind of R&D I like.

Re: Heinz’s sustainable ketchup cap

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Do you have a source for that? I'd be interested to read more, because there are similar statistics that only count the percentage collected, not the percentage actually recycled. e.g. there's quite a bit of "mixed" recycling in the UK, which firms count as "being recycled", but when they get to the recycling plant if there's "too much" contamination (e.g. food, non-recyclable plastic etc.) then it's sent to the inci…

https://www.sustainableplastics.com/news/germanys-plastic-re... https://www.eea.europa.eu/en/analysis/indicators/waste-recyc... I am unaware of the percentage of rejected contaminated plastics you mentioned, but Germans being Germans I assume it is not scandalous

Thanks, will take a look.

Re: Heinz’s sustainable ketchup cap

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post #195

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> t would never get hot enough to compost Sounds like too much water content and/or not enough air for aerobic bacteria to get to work. Tossing the pile with a pitchfork somewhat frequently should help it. Unfortunately, compositing when you live with wildlife is a challenge. I don't bother because if the raccoons didn't get into it, the bears would, and both are annoyingly messy when they do. I even had a bear do st…

I have a special compost barrel that was given to me. It has rollers and small holes. Raccoons and other animals are not able to get into it. Bears are not much of a concern. I’ll try again with more dry leaves. Spring is close to starting in my area.

Cardboard strips, egg cartons, and (untreated) sawdust or animal bedding style wood shavings can make for some good dry material as well if your compost is in fact too wet. Good rule is to layer it while you are building the pile, then turn twice a week once it is going / ready to go.

Your local hardware store may also have some compost kickstarter liquids as well, which might be helpful if you want to get it going before too many flies or ants come out to infest the pile.

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