Another thing that fascinates me about the Vision Pro: its looks. It’s at once futuristic - 3D knits, curved glass encased by aluminum - and yet also reminds me of something out of the 80s. Actually, it looks to me like a Mac. Aspects like the solo band’s dial, maybe. Or maybe it’s something you’d see in Back to the Future Part 2. Post modern yet nostalgic. I can’t quite wrap my head around it, no pun intended.
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#192It's summer here in New Zealand, and I have been using my AVP to code outside in the sunshine. There's no monitor glare and I'm not stuck inside. It's great.
Had similar experiences:
Running late, took a webex call from the back of my minivan on my MacBook Pro. Except I had enough screen real estate with the virtual monitor to do work during the boring parts. The best part was going full immersion and hearing the rain falling on a high mountain lake in between people speaking.
I also usually wake up overnight and want to work, but can’t because my office is located in the master bedroom. Now I can sit on my couch and not have to hunch over.
Finally, I took my dog to the dog park and worked with no screen glare and big virtual display
Also, watching movies on the moon is pretty cool.
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#193Another thing that fascinates me about the Vision Pro: its looks. It’s at once futuristic - 3D knits, curved glass encased by aluminum - and yet also reminds me of something out of the 80s. Actually, it looks to me like a Mac. Aspects like the solo band’s dial, maybe. Or maybe it’s something you’d see in Back to the Future Part 2. Post modern yet nostalgic. I can’t quite wrap my head around it, no pun intended.
For people looking for an elegant device with excellent passthrough to wear on the street, i suggest this https://www.dior.com/en_gr/fashion/products/00X0056HOGOG_C11...
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#194When reading about headset experiences, I'd de-weigh any insights that are within 3 months of the first headset purchase. The first few dozen sessions are novel, you get a kick (and social media views) about sharing how completely your life has changed to fit the headset. More often than not, it's collecting dust on the shelf within a few months. Sort of like an expensive blender you were so excited to get, you imagi…
There will be an inflection point with devices like Vision Pro, where you'd rather do things you do right now with a laptop, tablet or TV in the Vision Pro instead of with those other devices. Then the other devices will be the ones gathering dust. The hard part is being able to know when that inflection point comes. But I think there's a very good chance that 10 years from now, it's already behind us.
Here's my prediction for this: you need to have input with the same fidelity and ease of use as a mouse and keyboard. The mouse input analogy is probably pretty close with eye tracking, but text input? I can't even imagine what it will look like to make that work as nicely as real touch typing.
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#195I tried to use the Vision Pro for work, and I'm not sure if it was just my eyes or what, but looking at code inside of that thing was just...exhausting. When I took it off, I looked at my regular monitors with a newfound love. I'd love for this thing to reach it's full potential as this 'work from a mountaintop, but really your garage' device, but I feel like until the resolution gets to the same as existing monitors…
I had the same exact experience. It’s felt more like I was playing a simulator game of myself coding, and it was not enjoyable at all. I often wonder how people who actually work at fast paced places as engineers are claiming to be more productive with this strapped on. If I just ingested and read email and slack messages all day, or talked in zoom all day, sure (maybe), but I don’t.
I’m not extremely productive, but I have 2 use-cases I’m excited about.
1. Having more screen real estate in my small home office. I often dive into spaghetti code, and seeing more of it helps me maintain context.
2. Working in my RV. I can’t take my extra screens with me (it’s a multi-use family RV, so I’m not mounting anything. Plus, there isn’t room.), and I’m so, so excited about having more screen real estate in there. We lived/worked in it for 3 months last summer, and it was really nice coming home to more screens at the end of the trip.
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#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is the resolution? I never tried a Vision Pro yet, but that was my main gripe with my Rift. Indeed, IME, the ‶real world″ size of the windows is nothing, it's their angular resolution that is a make or break.
The original Oculus Rift had 1080x1200, VisionPro has 3660x3200, field of view is similar. In virtual monitor terms that means a Rift can display a 640x480 monitor and the VisionPro a 1920x1080 one. Still quite far away from Retina, but should be pretty usable, especially since it allows making the virtual screens bigger than a real monitor can be.
Nah it’s bigger than 1080…
You can choose 4k resolution and get extra real estate
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
There will be an inflection point with devices like Vision Pro, where you'd rather do things you do right now with a laptop, tablet or TV in the Vision Pro instead of with those other devices. Then the other devices will be the ones gathering dust. The hard part is being able to know when that inflection point comes. But I think there's a very good chance that 10 years from now, it's already behind us.
Here's my prediction for this: you need to have input with the same fidelity and ease of use as a mouse and keyboard. The mouse input analogy is probably pretty close with eye tracking, but text input? I can't even imagine what it will look like to make that work as nicely as real touch typing.
You can use a macbook keyboard and trackpad seamlessly with the headset
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
There will be an inflection point with devices like Vision Pro, where you'd rather do things you do right now with a laptop, tablet or TV in the Vision Pro instead of with those other devices. Then the other devices will be the ones gathering dust. The hard part is being able to know when that inflection point comes. But I think there's a very good chance that 10 years from now, it's already behind us.
Here's my prediction for this: you need to have input with the same fidelity and ease of use as a mouse and keyboard. The mouse input analogy is probably pretty close with eye tracking, but text input? I can't even imagine what it will look like to make that work as nicely as real touch typing.
It will probably look like a keyboard. Keyboards are so lindy at this point they didn’t even adjust the layout (from that path-dependent mess we are dealing with), let alone the form factor
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#199I recently had a kid and lost my office :), I've been struggling to have a set space for work when he's asleep, but would absolutely love it if I could just put on a headset. Is it workable for that? I used to try to code in the quest3 but the resolution felt like I might as well be coding on my phone. I'll go buy one today if this would be an office replacement for me.
I have literally the exact same problem.
Now I can sit on my couch in a much more comfortable and ergonomic? position with 4k screen size virtual display.
Plus I can watch movies with the sound on and not wake anyone up.
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#200When reading about headset experiences, I'd de-weigh any insights that are within 3 months of the first headset purchase. The first few dozen sessions are novel, you get a kick (and social media views) about sharing how completely your life has changed to fit the headset. More often than not, it's collecting dust on the shelf within a few months. Sort of like an expensive blender you were so excited to get, you imagi…
There will be an inflection point with devices like Vision Pro, where you'd rather do things you do right now with a laptop, tablet or TV in the Vision Pro instead of with those other devices. Then the other devices will be the ones gathering dust. The hard part is being able to know when that inflection point comes. But I think there's a very good chance that 10 years from now, it's already behind us.
There might be an inflection point like what you describe. It's also entirely possible that this is an evolutionary dead end like the voice interfaces that were the Next Big Thing a few years ago.
We've grown so accustomed to viewing technology as a steady progression of improvements that it seems natural that the thing that Apple is pushing today will be universal in 10 years, but there's no guarantee of that, and there are reasons to be skeptical that we'll look back at this as the next big leap.
For myself, I'm keeping my eye out for technology that is less intrusive into the rest of my life, not more immersive.