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Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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Apple has the prescription lenses in the stores. If you bring your glasses, they have a device that will shine some lights through your glasses to determine your prescription and pop out the correct lenses needed for the Vision demo.

I wonder how do they manage that with all the corrections needed like for astigmatism? That's a huge range of combinations.

The intake form asks for certain things (like prism vision) and it also asks if you know your prescription ahead of time. I can't imagine that they'll have all of those specific fixes but, for the majority of people, you can simply go in and get the right prescriptions lenses. They even email you a link to get your specific prescription of lenses after the demo.

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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Turning your head ~90 degrees to the left just to be able to see Slack(or any other windows) is for me an productivity nerf, not a boost. What's wrong with Alt/Option - Tab instead? In my life I experimented with 3 monitors, 2 monitors, one monitor, ultra widescreens, square aspect ratio displays, and a mix of several of those, etc. and I find the best productivity setup is when I have everything centered in my narro…

Totally agree. 32 inch display, 3 desktops mapped to Meta+left arrow, meta+up arrow, meta+right arrow. I don't even have to think about it to get to the desktop that is the up arrow.

I do have a 24 inch monitor that sits vertically to the side of this monitor but I haven't turned it on in at least a year. Even having to move my eyes is a waste of time. Screen space is simply not an issue for me.

Hope these people enjoy their videos because you aren't getting a whole lot more. It is like when I bought the sega saturn for like $800 adjusted for inflation as a kid. It was so cool for one New Years eve party and that was about it.

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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Well, will it one day support Steam and PC or is this just another closed expensive piece of hardware we'll need to wait for the non-Apple walled garden equivalent?

> we'll need to wait for the non-Apple walled garden equivalent

I assume Quest 2/3 already has those capabilities, or they will be added very soon to it, it can already remember things like your table/couch, display videos, etc.

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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The experience really isn't that bad on iPad, except the apps you end up needing to use are kind of lacking... which of course does make it not wonderful. I did this for a couple of weeks with an 11 inch pro while my laptop was being repaired (blasted keyboard... then they broke the mainboard while replacing it). The 11inch is a little small and it made some things difficult, but not how you might think. The main thi…

That's a big "except" you are talking. If I can do almost everything except this in app A, and everything except that in app B, which happen to be important workflows, why should I torture myself with an iPad instead of a proper Mac/PC or even Chromebook?

I mean, I said as much at the end.

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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Quick question: is it comfortable?

Yes and no. In order to get and maintain the best possible clarity, key for text, I have to wear it higher on my face than is comfortable and tighten the strap more than I would prefer. If I could wear it a little lower or with different supports on my face I could easily spend a full day in it; as it is, I’ve yet to spend more than 4h with it on. I find the Meta Quest Pro and 3 more comfortable, but the CV1 was the…

How does it compare to XReal for watching movies?

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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> I could see leaving open something like Datadog that I look at infrequently, but it'd be nice if it was just _there_ and I didn't have to go tab-hunting to find it Exactly! I use a 50" TV as my main display, but I stick chat, email, and music on separate monitors. If I use chat/email extensively, I move it closer. Otherwise, it's just something that's on all the time that I don't need to dig for.

I’d be curious to see what your set up looks like. How far away is the TV? Is it mounted in the wall or something behind your desk?

About 3 feet.

I have it on a stand that I screwed into a beam of wood that goes between two very heavy speakers that I built myself. If I move my setup I might mount it on a wall.

Needless to say, I'm eagerly awaiting something like an Apple Vision Pro to be "mainstream" for desktop displays. I can't use a Mac for my 9-5 job.

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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Yes and no. In order to get and maintain the best possible clarity, key for text, I have to wear it higher on my face than is comfortable and tighten the strap more than I would prefer. If I could wear it a little lower or with different supports on my face I could easily spend a full day in it; as it is, I’ve yet to spend more than 4h with it on. I find the Meta Quest Pro and 3 more comfortable, but the CV1 was the…

How does it compare to XReal for watching movies?

Far, far more usable. You’ve got a much wider FOV and much better head tracking (6DoF vs 3DoF) and that’s before the basic improvements you get from having more resolution to play with.

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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Yes and no. In order to get and maintain the best possible clarity, key for text, I have to wear it higher on my face than is comfortable and tighten the strap more than I would prefer. If I could wear it a little lower or with different supports on my face I could easily spend a full day in it; as it is, I’ve yet to spend more than 4h with it on. I find the Meta Quest Pro and 3 more comfortable, but the CV1 was the…

> …I guess I’ve been an enthusiast since the Rift Kickstarter? The rift CV1 was really comfortable because there wasn't a whole lot in it. No processing, no battery, no cameras. It was pretty light. And the strap was not built down to a price and skimped on to upsell the elite straps. Even the much heavier quest 1 was way more comfortable than the quest 2 and 3. Way better standard strap. So good an elite one wasn't…

True. I have to say I enjoy the 3’s standard strap so far - huge improvement over the 2 - but the elite strap was part of my day one order :)

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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How does it compare to XReal for watching movies?

Far, far more usable. You’ve got a much wider FOV and much better head tracking (6DoF vs 3DoF) and that’s before the basic improvements you get from having more resolution to play with.

I thought there was no head tracking on XReal, but simply a 1-to-1 usage of the displays for video, i.e. without any simulated cinema environment around the movie. Which would mean the required FOV and resolution doesn't have to be as large as on a proper VR headset. Though it seems I was mistaken here.
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