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Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by SnowingXIV »

stevage wrote: post #160
rob74 wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> VSCode never felt slow on my macs until I started using Zed. I guess you haven't used Sublime Text before?

I had to stop using sublime because it kept updating its search index at inconvenient times and slowing to a crawl. That and self updating in ways that broke my most important plugin.

I’m still using Sublime for the references. Without fail I can load up any version of an application including older rails apps sub 3 and it instantly has context. I can easily jump to definitions and even on hover will show me where they are being used. In the context of foos.bars.baz I could easily infer where bars is defined. Seems to work across languages, doesn’t matter if it’s js, ruby, in an erb file it just works. Not to mention the flavor of vim feels great.

VSCode complains and I’ve got to hardcode an alternative absolute path gemfile for Shopify’s LSP to work. It also feels clunkier, even on powerful machines.

If Zed can give parity with Sublime on the references (I just tried and it did not seem to find any references when clearly bars was there) might be an interesting change. Considering it’s open source now I’d happily switch as it does seems super quick.

I might also be old-man yells at cloud and the copilot integration doesn’t appear important yet, but current sublime support is pretty poor for it and seems like that’ll be a thing more and more.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by chme »

haswell wrote: post #178
Zekio wrote: post #138

You know the AI craze is real when adding chat gpt-4 to a text editor is higher priority than Linux and/or Windows support

In product management parlance, this is low hanging fruit. Easy to implement and capitalizes on something the market is highly interested in at the moment. Given the concentration of developers who use Macs, and the accelerating interest in LLM-assisted coding, this makes a lot of sense to me. And while it may be true that AI is a craze, this is also a very real and useful feature grounded in a solid use case that ha…

Are really that many developers using Macs?

Maybe I am in a different bubble/country, but most professional developers and hobbyist hackers I know have either ThinkPads or Framework laptops running Linux or sometimes Windows, if they have to.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by bastawhiz »

rob74 wrote: post #156
Octoth0rpe wrote: post #51

I'm generally a big fan of zed and have been using it for 60%ish of my dev time for 6 months or so. A couple of nice things to note: - It really is remarkably responsive,and makes one really notice how UNresponsive everything else is. I have reasonably fast machines, so we're not talking about the difference between 5ms typing lag and 500ms, but it's still pretty surprising. VSCode never felt slow on my macs until I…

> VSCode never felt slow on my macs until I started using Zed. I guess you haven't used Sublime Text before?

I switched _to_ VSCode because Sublime was occasionally so slow at times that it was unusable. It was very fast 95% of the time, but then I'd `git pull` on a very big repo and my machine would become unresponsive while Sublime did...something.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by [deleted] »

klyrs wrote: post #180
Shish2k wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Please don’t do it like a 4x4 truck, do it proper, like a bicycle” — there is some overlap between those things, but for people who are actually making full use of the former, the latter is not a useful suggestion

I'd suggest that the people who make "full use" of vsc-over-ssh are satisfied with vscode, so it would be unwise to target the full featureset. More generally, targeting another project's complete featureset is often a great way to get mired down in the wrong details. Unless you can afford to do a proper cleanroom -- then, you'll be able to at least match the performance and useful abstractions used in the original.

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Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by fredoliveira »

stevage wrote: post #161
ufo wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looking for collaborative editors in particular. Two people editing at once, on different computers. Each person has their own copy of the file, on disk.

I'm curious about your use case?

This is a pretty common use case. Remote pair programming, interviews, etc, all rely on this same basic idea.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by Zekio »

haswell wrote: post #178
Zekio wrote: post #138

You know the AI craze is real when adding chat gpt-4 to a text editor is higher priority than Linux and/or Windows support

In product management parlance, this is low hanging fruit. Easy to implement and capitalizes on something the market is highly interested in at the moment. Given the concentration of developers who use Macs, and the accelerating interest in LLM-assisted coding, this makes a lot of sense to me. And while it may be true that AI is a craze, this is also a very real and useful feature grounded in a solid use case that ha…

"Given the concentration of developers who use Macs"

fairly certain this is a silicon valley thing, the vast majority uses Windows for development and I wouldn't be surprised if macOS and linux are pretty even these days

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by bastawhiz »

kristopolous wrote: post #172
miohtama wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s likely that Zed does not want users, or wants specific kind of users as this stage of their company maturity. Mac developer is a proxy for the user type Zed is probably aiming to sell service: Western, wealthy, senior. Whileas Windows users are everyone and their uncle. Scaling to large userbase does not make sense if they are not going to pay for your product.

I'm just sour about lack of Linux support, it's like I'm in 1998 again except now instead of Microsoft Windows ignoring us it's Apple macOS. A WINE like project for macOS software would be great

Well it's open source now, so pull requests welcome.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by bayindirh »

rob74 wrote: post #156
Octoth0rpe wrote: post #51

I'm generally a big fan of zed and have been using it for 60%ish of my dev time for 6 months or so. A couple of nice things to note: - It really is remarkably responsive,and makes one really notice how UNresponsive everything else is. I have reasonably fast machines, so we're not talking about the difference between 5ms typing lag and 500ms, but it's still pretty surprising. VSCode never felt slow on my macs until I…

> VSCode never felt slow on my macs until I started using Zed. I guess you haven't used Sublime Text before?

or BBEdit.
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