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Citigroup Plans to Cut 20k Jobs

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Re: Citigroup Plans to Cut 20k Jobs

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The laid-off email job corporate worker isn't going to take a job for $15/hr at the Flying J unclogging toilets. You can't use the total national average unemployment rate, which has issues of its own, to say the economy is healthy. In the same way, the stock market indices aren't helpful either beyond catastrophic values.

Median real wages are rising, too. And personally, I’d rather be a delivery driver than be unemployed. I think there is a correction in sectors that had been inflated by cheap money. The rest of the economy is doing pretty well.

Median real wages going up is people moving to new jobs with inflation-adjusted salaries and rates.

Re: Citigroup Plans to Cut 20k Jobs

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Layoffs? Does the company have 10x the amount of people being laid off? Did it happen after performance evaluations? Yes, yes and yes? You got ranked and yanked. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitality_curve Brought to you courtesy of MBA programs and their pseudoscience. Make MBAs illegal.

Well, looks like this one is old-school, but 7% is the new 10%.

Anyway, most recent layoffs look quite stupid to me (even though I can't make my mind on this one), but if you are doing a layoff, rank and yank is about as good a format as you can get.

Re: Citigroup Plans to Cut 20k Jobs

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This is everyone's last chance to trim their roles before the rate cuts. Once the rate cuts occur, the bull market will return, and companies doing layoffs (sending the message they are not experiencing growth) will be punished by the market.

> Once the rate cuts occur, the bull market will return Rate cuts often signal an impending recession, not a bull market, as historical data shows. The Federal Funds Effective Rate chart illustrates how recessions (marked in gray) align with periods of rate reductions. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FEDFUNDS

> impending recession

Hum... That graph shows recessions being a signal of impeding cuts and really not the other way around.

Re: Citigroup Plans to Cut 20k Jobs

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As I wrote, Cleveland is just one example. There are literally thousands of other cities around the country where housing is affordable and home ownership rates are very high. Broaden your horizons.

How many thousands? You realize that nearly 4 million homes are sold per month in the US, right?

Right so you have plenty of options to pick from in every price range.

Re: Citigroup Plans to Cut 20k Jobs

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And as always I assume most of the senior leadership will go unscathed, and might even collect a bigger bonus due to "successfully reducing the cost structure".

Well you’re not correct there. The first round was in November and 300 managing directors, representing 10% of the employees at that level were let go.

The cuts expected next week are for middle management at the next two levels down. Subsequent to that there is an expectation of one more round. Additionally Citi is shuttering the muni business.

I think most people expect that after those changes attrition should get to the headcount target by 2026.

Re: Citigroup Plans to Cut 20k Jobs

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Come on, stop making up nonsense. Just to pick one example there are numerous single family homes near Cleveland on the market for under $100K.

Ah yes, a city famous for its myriad job opportunities, Cleveland.

That's right, there are many job opportunities in Cleveland. The current unemployment rate there is only 3.7%. Anyone who actually wants to work can find a job.

Re: Citigroup Plans to Cut 20k Jobs

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What's going on with all these job cuts all concentrated now? The market is expecting the Fed to start cutting interest rates[0] in March and that has been bullish for the latter half of last year in the stock market. So why are so many companies cutting people? Are the March rate cuts too little too late or do they see that some damage has already been done and they're front running that? Or is it that layoffs is th…

New year and quarter for businesses, gotta show you made more money by spending less on salaries. They can fire now and still be covered by "the market made us do it". Fire now, and rehire for less in the next quarter or two. The US needs better protection for workers. If a corp has to fire 20k, that is a leadership problem and they should go too.

1) Citi has been talking about these cuts for three months. There’s little new here other than the CEO specifying the target head count. 2) There is no intent to rehire. Whole business lines are being shuttered. 3) Yes, of course there is a huge management problem. They fired 300 managing directors in November.

Since 2000 Citi stock is down more than 90%. JPMC and BofA generate an order of magnitude more revenue per employee than Citi. Jane Fraser is just the latest in a long series of executives seemingly unable to tame the beast.

Re: Citigroup Plans to Cut 20k Jobs

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Ah yes, a city famous for its myriad job opportunities, Cleveland.

That's right, there are many job opportunities in Cleveland. The current unemployment rate there is only 3.7%. Anyone who actually wants to work can find a job.

The current unemployment rate in San Francisco is 3.5%, so this is not the clever demonstration of your point you believe it to be.

Re: Citigroup Plans to Cut 20k Jobs

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Can you explain what you mean by desperate? Poor severance packages and few opportunities?

They were about to renew the house/flat contract, but the landlord decided to sell. So, looking for a new job and a new place while unemployed.

Fabulous
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